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All-Time NBA Draft--Round One: Jeffrey32 vs. White Chocolate

Who would win, Jeffrey32 or White Chocolate?

  • Jeffrey32

    Votes: 10 27.0%

  • White Chocolate

    Votes: 27 73.0%
  • Total voters
    37
  • Poll closed .
LOL! This was an "All-Time NBA Draft". Schmidt never played one second in the NBA.
 
Jeffrey32 said:
I'm sensing some Jazz bias in this voting. : )

For people who actually know basketball, historically and presently and aren't just Jazz Homers, the only position that the WC team beats mine is Malone, and that said the SLAM 500 Greatest of All Time has Pettit at 14 and Malone at 18. The to Louisiana boys actual have similar career averages and awards, but Pettit has a ring.

In terms of West v. Stockton:

WEST
NBA champion (1972)
NBA Finals MVP (1969)
14× NBA All-Star (1960–1974)
NBA All-Star Game MVP (1972)
10× All-NBA First Team (1962–1967, 1970–1973)
2× All-NBA Second Team (1968, 1969)
4× NBA All-Defensive First Team (1970–1973)
NBA All-Defensive Second Team (1969)
NBA scoring champion (1970)
NBA assists leader (1972)
NBA 35th Anniversary Team
NBA 50th Anniversary Team

STOCKTON
10× NBA All-Star (1989–1997, 2000)
NBA All-Star Game MVP (1993)
2× All-NBA First Team (1994–1995)
6× All-NBA Second Team
(1988–1990, 1992–1993, 1996)
3× All-NBA Third Team (1991, 1997, 1999)
5× NBA All-Defensive Second Team
(1989, 1991–1992, 1995, 1997)
9× NBA assists leader (1988–1996)
2× NBA steals leader (1989, 1992)
NBA all-time assists leader
NBA all-time steals leader
NBA's 50th Anniversary All-Time Team

It is very close, but West is The Logo, won a title, at different time led the league in scoring and assists, and beats Stockton in All-Star, First Team, and Defensive team selections. Unlike other old guys, West would have the size and speed to compete with the more modern players.

My team actually has championships and a lot of them. Kobe (5) alone beats WC's entire team in terms of titles and Bosh, Parish, West, Pettit, Barry, Marion, Cowens, Sikma, Dumars add another 15. Not sure how a team with only 2 beats a team with 20.
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Stockton is 1st all time in assists and 1st all time in steals. Case closed.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
I always felt that Sloan was a great coach, but when it came to the three point shot he was old school and coached the game as he believed it ought to be played (in a world where no three point line existed) rather than how it was actually played. He never seemed to understand the effect that the three point line had on the game, either on offense or defense. I think you may be doing the same thing. The purist in you says that you are somehow going to recognize who the best possible team should include, but you are refusing to acknowledge that you are playing your game on a court that has a built in bias (positive or negative) toward certain players.
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I'm not refusing it. I just say that winning is not everything in this matter. Getting the fun out of it is more important. Trying something. Hell, Stockton-Malone feels like a video game cheat.
 
addictionary said:
I'm not refusing it. I just say that winning is not everything in this matter. Getting the fun out of it is more important. Trying something. Hell, Stockton-Malone feels like a video game cheat.
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It's not my fault they fell to 15 & 16. I had them both rated higher, tbh.
 
CENTERS
At 40+ Parish dominated Laimbeer in the NBA playoffs and finals and even punched him in the face a few times. Imagine what he would have done to Laimbeer in his prime. Parish could run the floor like no other center of his day. My centers are not only rim protectors and rebounders but great runners of the floor and shooters from the field and the line.”
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This is Jeffrey32's write-up at center. He goes after my back-up and completely ignores Mourning.
 
White Chocolate said:
Stockton is 1st all time in assists and 1st all time in steals. Case closed.
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Zero titles for Stockton.
The Logo of the Entire League for 50+ years beats Assists and Steal especially when compounded with: West holds the NBA record for the highest points per game average in a playoff series with 46.3.
Slam 500 GOATs - West #11, Stockton #22.
 
Jeffrey32 said:
Zero titles for Stockton.
The Logo of the Entire League for 50+ years beats Assists and Steal especially when compounded with: West holds the NBA record for the highest points per game average in a playoff series with 46.3.
Slam 500 GOATs - West #11, Stockton #22.
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Slam magazine means nothing to me. I don't give a **** about what they say.
 
Jeffrey32 said:
Zero titles for Stockton.
The Logo of the Entire League for 50+ years beats Assists and Steal especially when compounded with: West holds the NBA record for the highest points per game average in a playoff series with 46.3.
Slam 500 GOATs - West #11, Stockton #22.
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If you want to play the magazine game, Dime Mag did a top-10 point guards of all-time. Stockton is #3 and West isn't even on the list.
 
Pg's: WC +1 (1)
Sg's: Jeff +1 (1)
Sf's: Jeff +1 (2)
Pf's: WC +1 (2)
Ç's: WC +1 (3)
Chem: WC +1 (4)
Mix: Jeff +1 (3)

Mix= using players from different time spans.

WC gets my vote.

Great job both teams. Close and difficult call for me.
 
White Chocolate said:
This is Jeffrey32's write-up at center. He goes after my back-up and completely ignores Mourning.
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I wrote it up quickly and didn't even look to see who your starter was because it didn't even matter and Parish and Laimbeer actually went head-to-head with Parish and the Celts winning out. Parish will be listed ahead of both in the Greatest Lists. A true Iron Man in the sport. Starting center for the 1997 Boston Celtics Championship at Age 44. Incredible! A broken down Mourning was the back-up to Shaq for his only title.

And here's him pounding Laimbeer, in case you missed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idA9Vym1F54
 
Jeffrey32 said:
I wrote it up quickly and didn't even look to see who your starter was because it didn't even matter and Parish and Laimbeer actually went head-to-head with Parish and the Celts winning out. Parish will be listed ahead of both in the Greatest Lists. A true Iron Man in the sport. Starting center for the 1997 Boston Celtics Championship at Age 44. Incredible! A broken down Mourning was the back-up to Shaq for his only title.

And here's him pounding Laimbeer, in case you missed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idA9Vym1F54
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Huh? The Celtics won in 1997? I though it was the Bulls vs. Jazz that year?
 
White Chocolate said:
If you want to play the magazine game, Dime Mag did a top-10 point guards of all-time. Stockton is #3 and West isn't even on the list.
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Using your lesser viewed Mag, West was listed under SGs

4. Jerry West (1960-1974)
Career stats: 27.0 PPG, 5.8 RPG, 6.7 APG and 2.6 SPG
Career accomplishments: 14x All-Star, 12x All-NBA, 1x NBA Champion and a Hall of Fame Inductee
Jerry West was an all-around combo guard with playmaking skills like a point guard and he could score like a shooting guard. Some might place him on an all-time point guard list, but due to his ability to score at will, it is appropriate to label him a shooting guard. West was dubbed “Mr. Clutch” for his late-game heroics. West once scored 44 points, grabbed 12 rebounds, dished out 12 assists and recorded an unofficial 10 blocks, resulting in an ultra-rare quadruple-double.


When did another PG/SG have a Quadruple Double?
 
Jeffrey32 said:
Using your lesser viewed Mag, West was listed under SGs

4. Jerry West (1960-1974)
Career stats: 27.0 PPG, 5.8 RPG, 6.7 APG and 2.6 SPG
Career accomplishments: 14x All-Star, 12x All-NBA, 1x NBA Champion and a Hall of Fame Inductee
Jerry West was an all-around combo guard with playmaking skills like a point guard and he could score like a shooting guard. Some might place him on an all-time point guard list, but due to his ability to score at will, it is appropriate to label him a shooting guard. West was dubbed “Mr. Clutch” for his late-game heroics. West once scored 44 points, grabbed 12 rebounds, dished out 12 assists and recorded an unofficial 10 blocks, resulting in an ultra-rare quadruple-double.


When did another PG/SG have a Quadruple Double?
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So you have a SG playing PG. Nice..
 
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