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Colton I would think your theology would lead you to believe that populated "alien" worlds would be a given, not that we were alone in the universe, at least where the PoGP is concerned.
Duck Rodgers
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Any scenario where Aliens aren't 1000 X cooler than us is not one I want to see.
Maybe this is why we are all so far apart hahaha
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I'm just hoping that somewhere in an alternate reality, the Jazz DID actually get the right calls and won a championship.
Yes, I realize my view on this is different than the typical Mormon view. Suffice it to say that I don't see the word "worlds" in e.g. Moses chapter 1 as being necessarily synonymous with "planets". And even if they are synonymous, it doesn't say anywhere that those worlds are/were in this universe.
edit: to continue a bit... From a religious standpoint, I see the Earth as being of paramount importance due to the life/atonement of Jesus Christ taking place here, and our potential for exaltation. Therefore I don't see a theological reason for any intelligent beings living on other planets in the galaxy, and it seems more likely to me that the entire purpose of the creation of this universe was for us to live on the Earth right here and now. But I recognize I may well be wrong. And none of that is really relevant to my scientific analysis of the situation as posted above.
Ya, I was fairly shocked by his response as well.
I'd bet half my kingdom that NAOS is an obnoxious, know it all, black chick in 99% of them.
I was hoping you'd chime in on this thread to back me up... Time to reconsider what I thought was legitimate science. That being said, thanks for taking the time.
Not trying to be a jerk but you thought secret alien visitations that are being covered up by the world powers was legitimate science?
Colton, you might be the most conservative physicist/scientists I've ever read or listened to. Of course, I'm not saying this as a bad thing or criticism and I'm not talking about your religious stand point(never would go into that). I was just a little bit surprised about your more cautious approach than the average scientists.
And, you mainly talked about your projections in your life time. However I'd like to hear what are your a little bit longer term projections. Like in 250 years or 500 years. Considering that the human technology, in just two centuries or so, has come from the steam systems to the quantum computers, which is one your research areas I believe, what things do you believe humans and their science&technology can achieve in that kind of long terms?
And more generally, do you have strict boundaries in your scientific approach/philosophy? Especially within the scientific possibilities in genetics/biology?
And, you mainly talked about your projections in your life time. However I'd like to hear what are your a little bit longer term projections. Like in 250 years or 500 years. Considering that the human technology, in just two centuries or so, has come from the steam systems to the quantum computers, which is one your research areas I believe, what things do you believe humans and their science&technology can achieve in that kind of long terms?
And more generally, do you have strict boundaries in your scientific approach/philosophy? Especially within the scientific possibilities in genetics/biology?
I doubt the "average scientist" has views that are too different than mine on things like faster than light travel and when/if we will encounter and be able to interact with alien civilizations. But I haven't seen a poll, so who knows. However, I'm wondering if these physicists/scientists you read/listened to are average. I'm guessing you're talking about the media, which tends to grab fairly sensationalist personalities for their reports.
I can foresee what's likely to happen in my lifetime, or at least I think I can. I'm 43, so basically half my life is over. I know how long--and how fast--things can develop, so I really feel pretty confident in projecting that far away. Especially in areas that I'm fairly familiar with... for example, I'll go on record saying that we won't have a usable (for e.g. code breaking) quantum computer for at least 15 more years. And maybe not even then. It's a HARD problem. Projecting 250-500 years is FAR more difficult, as I'm sure you understand. I hardly even venture to guess at what's possible in that span. And I'm just slightly more confident in saying what's impossible, although faster than light travel is one of those areas.
I'm not sure what you are asking about. Are you talking the ethics of genetics/biology? Or what I think is possible? I do think ethical lines must be drawn, but I'm not sure where those lines are drawn. I think if NO lines are drawn, however, the potential for transformative technologies in that area is so great that homo sapiens could be unrecognizable as our same species in 500 years.
b_line
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So if we do find other habitable planets or intelligent life, it changes everything about the way we live.
Right now we focus so much on making a living and getting a piece of scarce resources that we don't have a broad sense of community. There are so many possible outcomes to finding life and even another habitle planet.
Right now we focus so much on making a living and getting a piece of scarce resources that we don't have a broad sense of community. There are so many possible outcomes to finding life and even another habitle planet.
Cute.
No, I've stated pretty clearly that I know why people don't believe that kind of stuff, and I don't blame them. I'm a little more optimistic is all. I enjoy watching those videos and indulging my mind with differing ideas and radically stupid theories. You don't. It's cool man, I get why you don't.
As for calling on Colton, it was for his expertise in physics as it relates to speed of light, teleportation, etc. You know, the real science kind of stuff.
No I was really not talking about guys like Hawking or Kaku or other theoretical physicists/futurists, although the futurists are my favorites. But I was actually talking about the scientists that are just regular college dudes that I liked very much annoying and teasing them with my naughty semi-scientific/semi-science fiction questions.
I asked as in more like guessing game rather than foreseeing. But I'm used to chat with physical science dudes, you guys tend to think in scientific methodology even when chatting with the average Joe like me.
As for the light speed issue, I agree generally. But on those kind of matters, it's more about the ground braking changes and discoveries in science to me. A lot of the current dominant thoughts in science can change dramatically in a blink of an eye, the history of science is full of that actually.
I have a distant relative who is also a physicists and I like his more open approach, when I ask him a question like "do you think this thing or that thing possible?", he always gives me the same answer more or less, "If I wanted to say something is impossible, I'd be a mathematician". Of course that's his escape answer from me but he believes in it at least partially.
Btw, I'm interested in quantum technologies on a popular science level so I know we have a couple decades more to see them in more applicable usage.
Haha, I know I suck at asking questions but fortunately you're good at answering, so I actually got most of the answers I wanted.
Is it a bad thing?
FWIW I love thinking about that stuff as well. I even often contemplate the nature of God and all that. Unfortunately that's as far as it goes because I'm an incurable skeptic.
I'm on the complete opposite side of the spectrum. I'm a salesman's wet dream, as I pretty much believe anything right off the bat, and impulse buy like it's my job. I'm getting better (after being scammed more than a few times), but it still drives my wife bat ****.
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Discuss these scams. These are probably better than what you have as #2 and 3 on your list in that other GD thread that Stoked started.
I thought the species of fish thing was cool.
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