Police Power and Racial Tensions in Ferguson, Missouri

[Gameface]

I do think requiring all on duty cops to wear body cameras (that cannot be turned off). It couldnt hurt...

I certainly like that idea.

 

[Gameface]

I agree with you there, but that is just a piece of the oppression pie. That alone will not stop blacks from being oppressed. And many of the programs intended to help poor blacks (welfare, affirmative action, etc.) actually have the opposite effect.

Edit: no matter what is changed, poorer urban areas will always have more crime
So I think the arrest stats stay the same.

I agree with you that it's not that simple. But to me it's the low hanging fruit that is actually solvable now.

 

[Dr. Jones]

I certainly like that idea.

uniform perv, tbh.

 

[TroutBum]

I do think requiring all on duty cops to wear body cameras (that cannot be turned off). It couldnt hurt...

I agree. That **** costs money though. Tax payer money. Furguson will be spending any extra cash they may have had, cutting departmental budgets, and maybe even bonding to clean up the city that these dumb *** morons destroyed, so don't get your hopes up for their PD getting cameras anytime soon.

 

[Gameface]

uniform perv, tbh.

There's nothing like a woman in uniform...wearing a camera for a little POV action.

 

[Dr. Jones]

There's nothing like a woman in uniform...wearing a camera for a little POV action.

link?

 

[TroutBum]

link?

Seriously? He just got out of jail and your tempting him to go right back in the slammer?

#friendslikethese

 

[Dr. Jones]

Seriously? He just got out of jail and your tempting him to go right back in the slammer?

#friendslikethese

Your advice has been slightly worse than a jealous woman.

 

[JAZZGASM]

I agree. That **** costs money though. Tax payer money. Furguson will be spending any extra cash they may have had, cutting departmental budgets, and maybe even bonding to clean up the city that these dumb *** morons destroyed, so don't get your hopes up for their PD getting cameras anytime soon.

If I were the police chief/mayor, it would be the first thing on my list to purchase to help ease some tension. Having cameras is cheaper in the long run, because it is a very effective evidence tool that could cut down on the costs of prolonged investigations and court proceedings.

 

[TroutBum]

Your advice has been slightly worse than a jealous woman.

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, this orgy wouldn't be so awkward.

 

[Dr. Jones]

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, this orgy wouldn't be so awkward.

So who's bringing what?

 

[TroutBum]

So who's bringing what?

I'll take the rear.

 

[JAZZGASM]

I'll take the rear.

Just don't be a ballhog.

 

[Dr. Jones]

I'll take IT IN the rear.

okie dokie.. same ol same ol..

 

[Nate505]

I can't wait for this thread to die.

Good luck with that.

 

[8]

What? Denzel is great. Though it would be nice if he played someone other than a law enforcement officer.

But then he'd have to find Hollywood movies without those roles. There aren't enough black superheroes.

 

[Stoked]

I agree. That **** costs money though. Tax payer money. Furguson will be spending any extra cash they may have had, cutting departmental budgets, and maybe even bonding to clean up the city that these dumb *** morons destroyed, so don't get your hopes up for their PD getting cameras anytime soon.

Well the Ferguson PD bought dashboard cameras but had not installed them yet at the time of the shooting.

 

[One Brow]

The problem is that everything in the original narrative proposed by the press, protesters, and Brown's family turns out to be a lie. Everything.

You have a reason to believe Brown was armed? That he was a threat?

... trying to suppress the video from the cigar store.

Why is this video relevant at all, except to tarnish the victim?

But because he was Hispanic and not black:

Over the years, I've seen stories of all sorts of people who were involved in these police raids, and no one cared. No one cared about Michael Brown, either, until the riots started. The notion that it was a black victim that triggered the press coverage is ignorant and fantastical.

SO why wasn't anyone interested then?

No riots.

 

[One Brow]

So a cop with no complaints record has less credibility than a man who just robbed a store?

I don't know what Wilson is saying. I do know that police are now being trained in the justification of the use of lethal force, and that Wilson would respond to such training.

I don't want to hear that we don't know that it's him in that video. We know. Even his buddy has admitted that it was them.

I believe Johnson when he admits he and Brown robbed the store (he has something to lose by saying this), and I believe Johnson when he says Brown was standing with his hands raised (he has nothing to gain by saying this). You believe Johnson in the first case, but not the second. Hopefully, you'll appreciate why I find your position inconsistent in general, and convenient for you.

If this is true, does the cop not have every right to protect himself by eliminating the threat?

If this is true, sure. However, you asked which side I find more believable.

Michael Brown's credibility went right out the window as soon as the robbery video posted.

Irrelevant, since Michael Brown won't be testifying.

The cop may have been able to deescalate the situation without killing him,

The cop could have avoided escalating the situation at all. Again, I notice you don't have any compunction about judging Michael Brown, while being reluctant to judge the cop. That's very convenient.

but I'm not going to judge him on that because in situations like that you have little time to think.

What a shame Wilson had no training in the use of force to rely on in these situations. [/sarcasm]

It may also end up being decided that Wilson carries some blame. But even then I don't care.

Yes, you have made that perfectly clear.

 

[One Brow]

I also think that the authorities need to apprehend Michael Brown's accomplice on the charge of robbery, and put the squeeze on him and make him tell the truth.

What's the truth?

The crazy thing about something like this is, those people in Ferguson are fighting for a guy who is threat to them.

Gosh, he was a tall, strong, black man. What an obvious threat to everyone around him.[/sarcasm]

It's bizarre how messed up that type of thinking is.

Someone thinking here is bizarrely messed up.