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Best beers for brahs?

Gameface said:
Define "ale"

Seriously, to me it's kind of like saying you don't like Chinese food because you've tried the entire line of LaChoy offerings and didn't enjoy them. The world of ale is vast and diverse.

Now that's not to say that ales don't typically have a certain character, because in general they do. But there are beers that emphasize that character and there are ones that absolutely minimize it. Not a commercial offering but a very popular homebrew recipe called "Cream of Three Crops" is one that brewers often make for their non ale loving friends and family. https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f62/cream-three-crops-cream-ale-66503/

I've only used Scottish ale yeast in my Scottish ales, but it's a super clean ale yeast and I bet I could make a very light, very clean, very non ale-like beer with a simple recipe.

It's also possible that you like the noble hops that commercial lagers typically use as well as just preferring very lightly hopped beers in general. If it is a hop issue then I assure you, it's not an ale vs lager thing.
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Thanks for explaining some details in beer making which is a unknown territory for me. From dark beers I like porters. Ale's I tried to me just either to sweet or to thick, I can drink them but they don't give me as much satisfaction as good quality lagers ( and trust me I hate bad lagers, they taste like piss, for example Coors light, Corona, Molson, whatever...) ...To be honest I remembered one red beer I enjoyed ( not sure if it was ale or not though).... I think it was called Red Erik and was made in Denmark. To bad can't find it anywhere here in Canada.
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LogGrad98 said:
Is there seriously another reason to drink beer outside of alcohol content?
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Goes perfectly well with food. Beer in here does not give as much choices as you have, but if it is cold enough, it is the perfect drink near anything to my taste. I love drinking beer with food and if did that whenever I wanted to and not stop myself I would have a tummy with the sight like an A-Bomb exploded in it.


You know what? Make it an H-Bomb.
 
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AKMVP said:
Thanks for explaining some details in beer making which is a unknown territory for me. From dark beers I like porters. Ale's I tried to me just either to sweet or to thick, I can drink them but they don't give me as much satisfaction as good quality lagers ( and trust me I hate bad lagers, they taste like piss, for example Coors light, Corona, Molson, whatever...) ...To be honest I remembered one red beer I enjoyed ( not sure if it was ale or not though).... I think it was called Red Erik and was made in Denmark. To bad can't find it anywhere here in Canada.
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Fell in love with the name.
 
AKMVP said:
Thanks for explaining some details in beer making which is a unknown territory for me. From dark beers I like porters. Ale's I tried to me just either to sweet or to thick, I can drink them but they don't give me as much satisfaction as good quality lagers ( and trust me I hate bad lagers, they taste like piss, for example Coors light, Corona, Molson, whatever...) ...To be honest I remembered one red beer I enjoyed ( not sure if it was ale or not though).... I think it was called Red Erik and was made in Denmark. To bad can't find it anywhere here in Canada.
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Just want to clear something up. A beer is an ale or a lager based on the type of yeast used. All beer is either an ale or a lager. Porters, Stouts and hefeweizens are ales.
 
Can you use both kinds of yeast and get some kind of beer hybrid?
 
LogGrad98 said:
Can you use both kinds of yeast and get some kind of beer hybrid?
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There are some hybrid styles, like California common (Anchor Steam) that uses a lager yeast fermented at ale temps. But mixing yeast isn't very common. Basically the conditions will most likely favor one strain over the other and that strain will choke the other one out.
 
Gameface said:
Just want to clear something up. A beer is an ale or a lager based on the type of yeast used. All beer is either an ale or a lager. Porters, Stouts and hefeweizens are ales.
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Ok so I hate stout, like Porter and what the heck is bock?
 
So does that mean that Zima is a lager? Or am I reading that wrong?
 
Gameface said:
There are some hybrid styles, like California common (Anchor Steam) that uses a lager yeast fermented at ale temps. But mixing yeast isn't very common. Basically the conditions will most likely favor one strain over the other and that strain will choke the other one out.
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What about like mixing lagers and ales together at some point in the process. Just curious. I am sure a lot of this has been tried or whatever but since I don't drink beer I admittedly know virtually nothing about it, but I am finding this interesting.
 
LogGrad98 said:
What about like mixing lagers and ales together at some point in the process. Just curious. I am sure a lot of this has been tried or whatever but since I don't drink beer I admittedly know virtually nothing about it, but I am finding this interesting.
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People do blend beers, although I'd say it's not terribly common. Blending used to be a pretty common practice in English breweries where they'd age beer for years and then serve it blended with fresh "running" beer at the time of service to the customers desired taste. Eventually people just preferred the fresh beer and the practice of extended aging times went away. But all of those beers were ales.

I don't know nearly as much about the history of German brewing as I do English brewing, but I'm not aware of any traditional practice of blending ales and lagers.
 
Looks like the makers of Zima classify is as a clearmalt or malternative beverage. It is brewed as a lager and then filtered so fine that the color is removed. At least that's what i just read.
 
Gameface said:
Looks like the makers of Zima classify is as a clearmalt or malternative beverage. It is brewed as a lager and then filtered so fine that the color is removed. At least that's what i just read.
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Interesting
 
You guys realize that BoJack Horseman has a thing for Zima, right? Just making sure we're all on the same page. ****'s getting trippy.

Gameface, bravo old chap. I have learned a lot from you. That graphic was helpful!

And to respond to LogGrad, I might have come out swinging in regard to your comment earlier. While I cannot offer an apology for my reaction to your post, for these always occur in spontaneous reaction to the stimluli that we perceive immediately and effortlessly, I take accountability for that one. I think I was a bit offended by your offhand reference to this thread ("best beers for bras or whatever"). That ticked me off a bit. Just wanna clear the air. And thanks for the wiki reference to transference. I know a bit about psychoanalytic language, and I think a better term to capture the essence of my inflammatory post would be "projection." I interpreted your above-referenced comment as a slight about people who drink beer, which I assumed was from a moral high ground (I don't know if you're LDS or what, but quite a few LDS folks exhibit a palpable disdain for people who drink alcohol. As a "non-member," that schtick has grown tired, and I don't really tolerate it too well). I think the point of me saying your post was passive-aggressive -- and why I offer the term projection here -- is that your separate thread seemed to spawn from a reaction to something you truly wish you could take part in, but are forbidden to partake, given the religious-moral code I prejudged you for having. The projection really seemed to come from your language in your poll: your position seemed clear, and I wasn't really struck with the impression that you really wanted to understand the "other" side's perspective. Again, please accept this effort to reconcile my misinterpretation. I meant what I said when I wrote, "No offense..."

Beer is terrific. Alcohol makes beer taste nice, but without a savvy undergirding, a ****ty beer is just ****ty, regardless the alcohol content (see: St. Ives, Colt 40, and other ***-tasting malt liquors). Especially for craft beers, there is a sense of ownership that the drinker can experience when that lovely liquid touches the lips: "Someone cared enough to make a delicious brew, hard-earned through myriad trials and errors, and it now blesses my tastebuds. Thank you, beer-Jesus for brewing for my sins."
 
Gameface said:
Looks like the makers of Zima classify is as a clearmalt or malternative beverage. It is brewed as a lager and then filtered so fine that the color is removed. At least that's what i just read.
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That is interesting. I got the idea from that graphic you posted and I seemed to remember an ad for Zima claiming it was a "malt liquor".
 
So what is mead? I thought it was a type of beer or at least made through a similar process. GF any wisdom about mead?
 
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