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Put in your bets for MSU to win National Championship right now while there is still a huge payout.
 
Msu looking great
Dumb fake punt doe.

This is the 2nd time I have watched msu (texas am the other time) and they look like the best team in the country both times
 
jazzman12 said:
Notre Dame is not a very good football team and is overhyped (as per usual). However, I pray they upset FSU. It would be a shame to see an ACC school in the final 4 in a year in which the SEC is so sickenly deep.

Seriously, that conference is insane this year. As of today, they have the 4 best teams in the nation IMO.
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Florida State does seem weaker this year. I haven't seen much of them outside of the end of that NC state game, but their scores don't pop out. I do like seeing teams that win championships be in the playoffs the next year though. If it was a bigger field, say 16 teams, I'd almost like to see an auto-bid for the defending champ as long as they have a winning season that next year.
 
Anybody else watch the TCU/Baylor game? Probably will be the craziest game this season.
 
LazyD said:
Anybody else watch the TCU/Baylor game? Probably will be the craziest game this season.
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Only from about 10:00 in the 4th on but that seemed like a good spot to jump in. I can't believe TCU went for it on 4th and 3 from the 45 or whatever.......and tried to throw a fade. I hope that was the open route that dude threw to and not his first read.....but it was so quick that I'm pretty sure that was the play. Weird.
 
The Thriller said:
A few pages ago we were talking about hate. The truth is, the hate comes because of the religion. If it weren't for the religious aspect, the rivalry would probably be similar to that of Utah St vs BYU/Utah. But you figure in the religion, and the antis/inactives hop onto the hate BYU bandwagon and leterrip. It's certainly entertaining to see so many antis unable to put the church into the rearview mirror. If I don't believe in something I certainly don't keep taking jabs at it. Perhaps their consciences are getting to them so they must constantly bash something to justify the lifestyles they know deep down inside to be incorrect?
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Just.
Go.
Away.
 
Every once in a while a special team with a special player burst onto the scene and have a special season. As of today, that team is undoubtedly Mississippi State and the player is Dak Prescott. I know I've busted Cy's balls on this, but if MSU isn't the #1 team on your ballot, and Dak Prescott isn't your leader for Heisman, you're crazy.

I love Dan Mullen, love Brian Johnson, and you gotta love how exciting MSU is to watch. They remind me of how fun it was to watch the 2004 Utah team that had Mullen cutting his offensive teeth under Urban. Cy, I'm sorry. Please accept my apology and let's be friends.
 
jazzman12 said:
Every once in a while a special team with a special player burst onto the scene and have a special season. As of today, that team is undoubtedly Mississippi State and the player is Dak Prescott. I know I've busted Cy's balls on this, but if MSU isn't the #1 team on your ballot, and Dak Prescott isn't your leader for Heisman, you're crazy.

I love Dan Mullen, love Brian Johnson, and you gotta love how exciting MSU is to watch. They remind me of how fun it was to watch the 2004 Utah team that had Mullen cutting his offensive teeth under Urban. Cy, I'm sorry. Please accept my apology and let's be friends.
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Agree for the most part......... I think that the Wisconsin running back is the best player in the nation though...... but since Wisconsin has a few losses dak will probably be ahead of him in the Heisman race.
 
freakazoid said:
Sooo... BYU still has a shot at the title this year, ya know, like that one time?
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BYU could go undefeated for 10 straight years and not have another shot at a title under the current system (which is good). But the system is still broken (despite the obvious correctness of my 1st statement). ;)
 
gregbroncs said:
BYU could go undefeated for 10 straight years and not have another shot at a title under the current system
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It all depends on thier schedule.

Notre dame will be in the playoff if they go undefeated and maybe even if they have one loss.
 
fishonjazz said:
It all depends on thier schedule.
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Exactly. Assuming BYU stays independent, it all hangs on the schedule. We'll see what they can do... it's looking like this season's weak schedule is an anomaly and the schedules will toughen up. If BYU has a Big Five-comparable schedule (let's say top 30-35 in the country) and goes undefeated, then they absolutely will have a shot at the title. Particularly since nearly everyone feels that the playoffs will expand to eight teams in the not-too-distant future.
 
colton said:
Exactly. Assuming BYU stays independent, it all hangs on the schedule. We'll see what they can do... it's looking like this season's weak schedule is an anomaly and the schedules will toughen up. If BYU has a Big Five-comparable schedule (let's say top 30-35 in the country) and goes undefeated, then they absolutely will have a shot at the title. Particularly since nearly everyone feels that the playoffs will expand to eight teams in the not-too-distant future.
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I would have agreed with this 4 years ago but now I completely disagree. BYU is not keeping up with the Jones' of college football. We always talk about what makes BYU different and how those differences make things such as recruiting much more challenging for BYU.

I mentioned the MWC years a few pages ago, but let's revisit that. In the 80's when BYU was putting a stamp on their legacy, schools like Utah and TCU were afterthoughts. Fast fwd to the MWC years and BYU was never able to replicate the success of those two schools. Why? Is it coaching? Is it talent and speed? Is it both?

As I've said before, BYU is in a rock and a hard place. Either they play a weak schedule, go undefeated and nobody cares, or they play a schedule so hard that there's no way they go undefeated with their current talent pool. Taysom is a special players and sometimes when you have a special player, especially at QB, they mask other weaknesses. BYU's D looked awful before Hill went down and now that he's gone, nothing about that team looks special at all with the exception of Jamal Williams.

Translation: They're not very good. Just like Utah hasn't been good enough to compete in the PAC consistently. IMO, for BYU to be a legit threat for a 4 or 8 team playoff they need to get in a P5 conference. Fair or not, it immediately gives them a better perception with voters. It will also help them with recruiting and make them better. Imagine them going into a non LDS 5 star QB's house and saying: "We're BYU. Steve Young and Jimmy Mac played here. We have an NC and a Heisman winner. Come play with us and you'll get a chance to compete for Big 12 titles, New Years bowls, and spots in the playoffs".

Until they get that, what you've seen the last 4-5 years is exactly what you're going to keep getting.
 
jazzman12 said:
I would have agreed with this 4 years ago but now I completely disagree. BYU is not keeping up with the Jones' of college football. We always talk about what makes BYU different and how those differences make things such as recruiting much more challenging for BYU.

I mentioned the MWC years a few pages ago, but let's revisit that. In the 80's when BYU was putting a stamp on their legacy, schools like Utah and TCU were afterthoughts. Fast fwd to the MWC years and BYU was never able to replicate the success of those two schools. Why? Is it coaching? Is it talent and speed? Is it both?

As I've said before, BYU is in a rock and a hard place. Either they play a weak schedule, go undefeated and nobody cares, or they play a schedule so hard that there's no way they go undefeated with their current talent pool. Taysom is a special players and sometimes when you have a special player, especially at QB, they mask other weaknesses. BYU's D looked awful before Hill went down and now that he's gone, nothing about that team looks special at all with the exception of Jamal Williams.

Translation: They're not very good. Just like Utah hasn't been good enough to compete in the PAC consistently. IMO, for BYU to be a legit threat for a 4 or 8 team playoff they need to get in a P5 conference. Fair or not, it immediately gives them a better perception with voters. It will also help them with recruiting and make them better. Imagine them going into a non LDS 5 star QB's house and saying: "We're BYU. Steve Young and Jimmy Mac played here. We have an NC and a Heisman winner. Come play with us and you'll get a chance to compete for Big 12 titles, New Years bowls, and spots in the playoffs".

Until they get that, what you've seen the last 4-5 years is exactly what you're going to keep getting.
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I think you missed the point of the conversation.

Someone said that byu could go undefeated for 10 years in a row with the hardest schedule in the nation and not get into the playoff.

Do you agree? (That is what was being discussed btw)
 
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