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This season will vindicate Ty Corbin

Stoked said:
Not for me. This will be a rough year. However, I believe that the Jazz finally have the coaches, staff, FO and players in place to grow and actively start building. We will see growth and struggle. This will be the year we should have had 3 years ago. No that is not all on Corbin.

I say 34 wins. 14 less than your "paramater".
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Sounds about right to me. With all the improvement, rough start last year, and a team now not intentionally designed to fail, I think if Snyder can push that up to 40 wins then I'll be wrong about Corbin.


Keep in mind I didn't set the parameter, the fan base did. Why is everyone like Core4 trying to whitewash everything they wrote about it last season? Saying the Jazz were a 48 win 6th seed if Hornacek were here.
 
franklin said:
Corbin developed young talent. Jazz fans seem to be the only people who don't see it. It's baffling to me. The rest of the league saw it and that's probably the reason Mike Malone hired him to help develop young talent there. He's been doing a lot of work with the young Kings players and the vets as well.
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The weeds in my back yard were bigger this year than they were last year.

You gonna tell me I'm a gardner?
 
DL said that Corbin was going to be tested and judged based on the teams defense. They finished dead last. I think Snyder should have the same test, especially as this is his first year, and putting in an entirely new system will take time, especially on offense. I personally am not a huge Snyder fan, I think he subscribes to the three pt chucking mentality too many coaches do, but it is obvious already how much better he will be for this team compared to the Milk Man.
 
franklin said:
Corbin developed young talent. Jazz fans seem to be the only people who don't see it. It's baffling to me. The rest of the league saw it and that's probably the reason Mike Malone hired him to help develop young talent there. He's been doing a lot of work with the young Kings players and the vets as well.
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Wait, you say he developed his young talent but are always saying how bad kanter and burks suck? Interesting
 
fishonjazz said:
Wait, you say he developed his young talent but are always saying how bad kanter and burks suck? Interesting
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Burks went from looking like a first round bust who couldn't earn playing time over CJ Miles, Roger, and Josh Howard to becoming capable of playing the 7th or 8th bench spot on a mediocre team. That's pretty damn good improvement.

Kanter is a meat head. You can't coach intelligence.
 
I read the title as "vindicate Cy" and I was like "wtf? This should be good." This makes more sense.

Setting the parameter at 48 wins is lol-worthy. Should be 10 more than last year.
 
Fabtrey said:
chauncy
rip
tayshun
sheed
ben

we can do it, but everybody needs to step up and get better. that pistons team was beautiful to watch because they were so great defensively. their help D was insane. and they made you play their game. to be like them we need at least 3 borderline all stars. we are 4 years away from being similar to pistons, but of course everything has to click. exum needs to be a serious threat. trey needs to be chauncey like. our bigs need to intimidate. and we need a stretch 4 who can make 3s like sheed. and hood needs to become Rip like. make those wet mid rangers and move without the ball.

it can be done. long shot, but it can be done. we are 4 years away. let's be patient.
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That Pistons team was a fluke. There's a reason why almost nobody brings that up anymore, because it was the exception to the rule. Not exactly a business model you want to try and recreate, and even though I understand you're probably just trying to look on the bright side, it ain't happening.
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I predict that Lindsey will pull off a Boston type maneuver either this year or next. Ideally, he will try to stockpile assets for one more year, and then make a big move near the deadline next year. However, if the Jazz exceed expectations in the first half of this year, and Lindsey has a chance to improve the team, I could see something happening this year.
 
freakazoid said:
That Pistons team was a fluke. There's a reason why almost nobody brings that up anymore, because it was the exception to the rule. Not exactly a business model you want to try and recreate, and even though I understand you're probably just trying to look on the bright side, it ain't happening.
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I predict that Lindsey will pull off a Boston type maneuver either this year or next. Ideally, he will try to stockpile assets for one more year, and then make a big move near the deadline next year. However, if the Jazz exceed expectations in the first half of this year, and Lindsey has a chance to improve the team, I could see something happening this year.
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Not gonna happen. The Jazz are a small market team.
 
Vindicate is a bit extreme. But we have a young team and a young unproven coach. Anyone who thinks that equals more than the lottery is as delusional as someone that is really delusional.
 
LogGrad98 said:
Vindicate is a bit extreme. But we have a young team and a young unproven coach. Anyone who thinks that equals more than the lottery is as delusional as someone that is really delusional.
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Not just a young team, but a young team without a single player who's established himself as an above average starter. Is anyone on this team even a fringe all-star over the next couple years?
 
GVC said:
Not just a young team, but a young team without a single player who's established himself as an above average starter. Is anyone on this team even a fringe all-star over the next couple years?
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I'd say Favors is likely to develop into a fringe all-star within the next two years.
 
Siro said:
I'd say Favors is likely to develop into a fringe all-star within the next two years.
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Western Conference Bigs:

Blake
Cousins
Dwight
Marc Gasol
LMA
Anthony Davis
Dirk
Duncan
ZBo
Pek
Ibaka
Deandre
Chandler

4-6 Bigs on a 12-man all-star team. There's no way Favors beats out any of the first 7 names on that list this season or next.
 
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