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trade partners made in heaven: Utah and Detroit

I think Detroit could play Kanter and Drummond together, as Drummond is a rim protector. If Kanter is going to be cheaper than Monroe as a FA, Detroit might think about it.
 
Stifle Tower said:
Agree.
While I'm not opposed to the Jazz combining assets to upgrade a position, I don't think Jennings is very much of an upgrade. He's a career 39% shooter. Trey is at 38% in his 2nd season. Now I do admit Jennings gets to the line a lot more. But if the Jazz are going to give up a pick AND a starter on a rookie contract, they should get a lot more.
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According to most of the forum Burke isn't starter quality. You have to give up stuff to get talent. Jennings has had a dissapointing career relative to expectations, but he is worth taking a risk on IMO.

**** Stiches and his idiotic thought process of never getting another PG ever who is good enough to start over Exum currently. Jennings is on a very trade-able contract that is going to be an expiring contract next year. It's a low risk trade IMO. We aren't getting giving up that draft pick anytime soon if it's lottery protected.
 
Cy said:
Jennings is one of those players that gets hated on so much (because he was overrated coming into the NBA) that he has actually become underrated.
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you better ask the Bucks fans and they will tell you Cy.
 
I'll bet you we could get Jennings for expirings... I don't think he has a lot of value... So why add the pick and if we give Trey I think they should add something not us.

There's not much id want on the pistons outside of Drummond
 
Tarkanian said:
you better ask the Bucks fans and they will tell you Cy.
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Yes, one team's trash is another team's treasure. GSW got rid of Ellis and it helped them a lot, but he wound up in Dallas and both Dallas and Ellis are flourishing. I know Jennings sucks on defense, and having Jennings/Kanter in the starting lineup would still yield the same problems as Burke/Kanter, but it can't be much worse.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I'll bet you we could get Jennings for expirings... I don't think he has a lot of value... So why add the pick and if we give Trey I think they should add something not us.

There's not much id want on the pistons outside of Drummond
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I think Jennings was traded straight across for Brandon Knight. I actually like Brandon Knight as a 3rd guard.
 
I just feel like Jennigns is one of those players that if he finds the right team, he will really flourish.
 
Cy said:
Yes, one team's trash is another team's treasure. GSW got rid of Ellis and it helped them a lot, but he wound up in Dallas and both Dallas and Ellis are flourishing. I know Jennings sucks on defense, and having Jennings/Kanter in the starting lineup would still yield the same problems as Burke/Kanter, but it can't be much worse.
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I'm willing to bet that Jennings is a better man-to-man defender than Trey. Not too hard. Kanter would still be a problem, but you fix one thing at a time.

Jennings>Trey
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I like Trey a lot better... either guy is a placeholder until Exum is ready and I think Trey has been cool with Dante. I'd much rather keep Trey... he's a much better trade asset than Jennings is.
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I completely disagree as far as being an asset. Burke's ceiling is basically Mateen ****ing Cleaves. Jennings on the other hand has (had?) an elite first step and ability to penetrate and if someone can harness that natural ability and teach him, he could be a stud.
 
Cy said:
**** Stiches and his idiotic thought process of never getting another PG ever who is good enough to start over Exum currently.
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No, sir, **** you and your plan of driving Utah to mediocre land. **** you very much. I believe Utah will trade picks to improve, but NOT this year. You would be giving up a pick to devalue our own pick. I don't care if it's protected, because it still removes the possibility of using that pick in a much better way. Talk to me again in the offseason, but if Utah is serious about building a contender, they won't give up a pick this year for anything other than a star. Ideally, Utah will grab another high pick this year, and then make a trade involving players and picks to take the next step up. Trying to take a small step up now would be bad management, IMO.
 
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Cy said:
According to most of the forum Burke isn't starter quality. You have to give up stuff to get talent. Jennings has had a dissapointing career relative to expectations, but he is worth taking a risk on IMO.

**** Stiches and his idiotic thought process of never getting another PG ever who is good enough to start over Exum currently. Jennings is on a very trade-able contract that is going to be an expiring contract next year. It's a low risk trade IMO. We aren't getting giving up that draft pick anytime soon if it's lottery protected.
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Expirings have very little trade value. There isn't much need for teams to clear space with the cap going up each season and a major increase coming up (likely smoothed, but still increasing significantly over 3-4 years). So we'd get a rental for 1 1/2 seasons. As much as I'm NOT sold on Trey, I like the fact that he's on a cheap contract for 2 more seasons and then a RFA thereafter. So IF he improves, Jazz can lock him up. Can't do that with the more expensive Jennings who is making $8M+.
 
Jennings' situation reminds me a bit of Rudy Gay's situation. Traded. Traded again. And Gay has been excellent in Sacramento this year.
 
Cy said:
Yes, one team's trash is another team's treasure. GSW got rid of Ellis and it helped them a lot, but he wound up in Dallas and both Dallas and Ellis are flourishing. I know Jennings sucks on defense, and having Jennings/Kanter in the starting lineup would still yield the same problems as Burke/Kanter, but it can't be much worse.
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The Ellis trade was brilliant by GS. Fine example of a great rebuilding move.
 
TBH, I'm not sure Detroit has anything that would be a priority for the Jazz right now. The Jazz are at a stage of their rebuild where they are looking for another impact player. Unless a valuable pick is involved, I don't see the Jazz making a big move right now. Maybe a smaller move though.
 
QuinSnydersHair said:
I completely disagree as far as being an asset. Burke's ceiling is basically Mateen ****ing Cleaves. Jennings on the other hand has (had?) an elite first step and ability to penetrate and if someone can harness that natural ability and teach him, he could be a stud.
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Wait Burke is Mateen Cleaves and Jennings is a potential stud? Jennings is 25... at this point he is who he is. People can cite Monta, but he plays with one of the 5 or 10 best players in the league and has a great head coach. Monta is the exception... not the rule. Monta also showed more potential early than Jennings ever did.

When looking at trade assets you have to factor in contract. Trey Burke will make $8 M over the next three years... Jennings is making over $16 M during the next two years. For two players who are statistically similar (although different players), that's a big difference.

After watching Jennings dribble the air out of the ball for 5 or 10 games you'd likely change your mind about trading for the guy.
 
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