Enes Kanter for Otto Porter: A Wizards Fan's Perspective

[Saint Cy of JFC]

What do dudes who look like this feel about the trade?

What does marginally popular rapper Wale think about the trade? Srs doe, if you have a twitter, tweet him the thread for his response.

What does soon-to-be former Wizard's fan Otto Porter Sr. think of the trade?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I made a thread for it on Wizard's Real GM but they moved it to an "Official Trade Thread". ****ing losers.

Here is the link.

https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=1333848&start=980

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Response 1:

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Try some of my chocolate salty balls.

How about Seraphin, DeJuan Blair, and Glen "Le Riz" Rice, Jr.?

Anyway, trades like this usually go in the stickied trade thread, and it will probably be moved there by a mod soon enough. See you there. viewtopic.php?f=35&t=1333848&start=980

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Response 2:

No.

The problem is that Kanter's contract expires this year and he'll be due a fat new contract. The Wizards are trying to be good, but they're not "all in" for a title run right now. The plan is to be competitive while maintaining cap room in 2016 to try and sign Kevin Durant. Porter works well in this scheme because he should be a pretty good player by 2016 but he'll still be on his rookie contract and won't soak up a ton of cap room.

The other issue is that Kanter doesn't really help us that much in the short term. He and Humphries would be the 3rd and 4th big man in the rotation. That's an upgrade over the Seraphin/Humphries duo, but in the playoffs, I expect Wittman to trim the rotation a bit and really only go with 3 big men. I don't think Kanter is enough of an upgrade over Humphries to be worth the sacrifice.

I'd trade Porter for Gobert, though.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

My response to these responses:

lulz

Kanter would be a huge upgrade over Humphries IMO, but yeah, I feel you about not wanting to go all in and risk not being able to re-sign Kanter.

Y'all aren't getting Durant though. Hate to be the bad news bear.

 

[MT Steve]

Dang, you showed those poor fans no mercy.

 

[stitches]

Tell them they gotta include Wall if they want Gobert...

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Can someone direct me to a better Wizard's message board?

 

[Sexual Favors]

Can someone direct me to a better Wizard's message board?

No doubt.

https://www.potterforums.com

 

[The Midnight]

 

[freakazoid]

Porter sucks.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

3rd reply from Wizard's fan

Love is a strong word. I love Nerlens Noel. I really like Otto Porter Jr. I believe he's a solid starting SF if given the opportunity, not quite 3rd pick worthy but mid-lottery worthy IMO. While Porter is certainly not untouchable I have little interest in Enes Kanter mainly because I view him as a wretched defender at C (easily in the bottom 5 of all rotation Cs in the league) which makes him basically unplayable despite any other positive attributes.

Seraphin on the other hand is a guy that would certainly be available for trade from my perspective. I'd give him up for a 2nd round pick but our coaching staff, front office & NBA scouts seem a little higher on him than I am.

 

[framer]

Fans are a funny lot. Kanter is worth Porter plus assets because Kanter will still be in the league in 3 years. Seriously though, Kanter would tear things up in the East. Those teams know it and one will offer him a fat paycheck.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Or people realize Kanter is a defensive liability with an extremely streaky jump shot and lacks the ability to get to the FT line or pass?

 

[Sexual Favors]

Or people realize Kanter is a defensive liability with an extremely streaky jump shot and lacks the ability to get to the FT line or pass?

Only true thing you said is about the passing. Luckily for my argument, Porter doesn't either. 6.8 AST% is atrocious for a wing.

Check the other thread for links to stats on his shooting. Everyone can have an of game, but altogether, what he's done has been impressive.

Defense? Actually reliable at it when opponets are within 10 ft. In top half of Western conference big men starters at this. Problem is perimter D, which every big struggles with. Our wings/gaurds will get better, and we can also draft a perumeter defender thus year. We don't need to trade Enes for pennies.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Only true thing you said is about the passing. Luckily for my argument, Porter doesn't either. 6.8 AST% is atrocious for a wing.

Check the other thread for links to stats on his shooting. Everyone can have an of game, but altogether, what he's done has been impressive.

Defense? Actually reliable at it when opponets are within 10 ft. In top half of Western conference big men starters at this. Problem is perimter D, which every big struggles with. Our wings/gaurds will get better, and we can also draft a perumeter defender thus year. We don't need to trade Enes for pennies.

Pretty sure Kanter is shooting something like 28% from the midrange in the last 10 games (or so, Locke posted something along those lines not too long after/before the Hornets game).

Porter is a great passer. You are blind. Keep hugging to these stats that defy the eye test.

 

[Sexual Favors]

Pretty sure Kanter is shooting something like 28% from the midrange in the last 10 games (or so, Locke posted something along those lines not too long after/before the Hornets game).

Porter is a great passer. You are blind. Keep hugging to these stats that defy the eye test.

I don't think it was the last 10 games.

His FG% is still above 50%.

Those stats I am referencing are from Basketball-reference. They have splits by month, opponent, etc. They aren't made up. he had a couple off games, but overall, his percentages remain high.

So Locke pointed out a breif shooting slump, so? Enes is still shooting .467% from 10-16 feet. 81% from the FT, and 32% from 3 (40% in December) in the year. Those are great #'s for a 6'11" 22 yr old. You just don't trade that. Especially when you factor in his per 36 has him at 18.7 PT and 9.8 rebounds, with an ORB% of 12.4 (one ofthe highest in the league). That's the makings of an incredibly special player. One that you teach how to pass.

 

[addictionary]

Or people realize Kanter is a defensive liability with an extremely streaky jump shot and lacks the ability to get to the FT line or pass?

You use the term streaky shooter a lot but I think Kanter's problem with his percentage is again rooted in his lack of experience to match up against hard opponents. He is not used to shoot clean against any shown hand. He is better than terrible in contested shots but not good enough for a player that is known for bad defense and only his offense.

Also, his mentality has been weak and he has been affected by the out-of-court factors in his basketball career. But I observe more matured and slightly angry reactions from him lately, and this mood clearly adds to his concentration and power to compete. He has a really good hand for a bigman scorer, the kind that is hard to come by. So one should be patient to get him to play the game more smart and with defense, in order to keep this talent in his hand.

It's too bad that even any Wizards fan can tell he is league bottom defender, or even if he is not, he sure looks like one during games. Enes has to do something about it, because no coach or teammate respects a player that does not defend his rim.

 

[Hantlers]

Kanter is average against his man, but really struggles with help defense. He's just too slow, and had a low bball IQ.

 

[fishonjazz]

Only true thing you said is about the passing. Luckily for my argument, Porter doesn't either. 6.8 AST% is atrocious for a wing.

Check the other thread for links to stats on his shooting. Everyone can have an of game, but altogether, what he's done has been impressive.

Defense? Actually reliable at it when opponets are within 10 ft. In top half of Western conference big men starters at this. Problem is perimter D, which every big struggles with. Our wings/gaurds will get better, and we can also draft a perumeter defender thus year. We don't need to trade Enes for pennies.

I don't think it was the last 10 games.

His FG% is still above 50%.

Those stats I am referencing are from Basketball-reference. They have splits by month, opponent, etc. They aren't made up. he had a couple off games, but overall, his percentages remain high.

So Locke pointed out a breif shooting slump, so? Enes is still shooting .467% from 10-16 feet. 81% from the FT, and 32% from 3 (40% in December) in the year. Those are great #'s for a 6'11" 22 yr old. You just don't trade that. Especially when you factor in his per 36 has him at 18.7 PT and 9.8 rebounds, with an ORB% of 12.4 (one ofthe highest in the league). That's the makings of an incredibly special player. One that you teach how to pass.

Killing it