I'd rather have Russell than Johnson if we are starting Gobert. We going to need shooters who can space the floor. Also going to need another playmaker if Exum doesn't pan out. Russell Is pretty good Exum insurance since he can be a 2 or 1.
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Jazz4ever
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Butler is not a good comp for Johnson. He plays SG for the Bulls most of the time, and much more athletic than Johnson (nearly hits his head on the rim when dunking)
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Well... I've given it some thought, and decided my guy is WCS. how amazing would it be to have a rotation of Favors Gobert and Booker, and I think Booker will only get better
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After Hezonja, Vezenkov is the second top Euro prospect to suggest he might not be declaring for this draft. When asked about him joining the NBA here's what he said:
"It's a very distant goal. I am not thinking about it right now. I don't even think I'm ready. When I am I will think about it."
"It's a very distant goal. I am not thinking about it right now. I don't even think I'm ready. When I am I will think about it."
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I just want them to set the board and draft the best player left. If that's Russell, or Johnson, or WCS, or Porzingis, or Hezonja or Wnslow. . . I don't really care. All of them have strengths. All of them have weaknesses. All of them have the potential to be stars. All of them need coaching and development. Don't reach because of position or perceived needs. Fill those with free agency. Draft and develop is the best plan for the Jazz. If they end up inside that top 10 range, they will get a good player IF they don't reach.
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I'm fine with getting WCS, especially if they do something with Kanter. There's few players who can guard bigs and then step out and be proficient defending on the perimeter. It's also the reason that I'd be fine with trying Porzingis at the 3 if they draft him instead of just saying that he's strictly a stretch 4. He looks like he might have enough athleticism to do it. Gobert, Favors, Porzingis, Hayward and Exum. . . essentially the same type of lineup as if Antetokounmpo were drafted instead of Burke.
Go after Gerald Green, Danny Green and/or DeMarre Carroll to round out the wing rotation. If they don't keep Kanter (or if he comes back cheap), I bet one of them could be acquired.
lol ... he said that???
Except the Greek Freak was playing point forward for his team in Europe so he has the ball skill to do it. I'm not sure Porzingis has the handle to dribble and drive and dish, etc.
This.
I can see why people are enamored with WCS. He's a bit like the Andre Drummond of this draft. Stand-out athlete for a guy that size, big impact on the boards and with blocks, raw offensively. The thing working against him, if anything, is that he's a bit older than the freshmen phenoms.
I'd predict that Hezonja will enter the draft. I think he's posturing a bit like Saric did last year. But it's not clear if he'd come over right away. If that's the case, it will hurt his draft position somewhat.
Coach Ellis
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I don't disagree with that assessment at all, but I have seen Porzingis operate beyond the arc a lot more than your typical big and he seems to have a decent handle and passing skills that at least make it intriguing. I'm not saying that he can do it, but I'd certainly try. Because if he can. . . damn. That's a very lengthy, defensive lineup. If he can't, you reload and focus your efforts on developing him as a stretch 4. He'd be very, very awesome as a 3rd big behind Gobert and Favors. Same thing for WCS, but for more of the defensive options instead.
I haven't either. I think it is ridiculous to give up on him considering how young he is. The kid just turned 19 years old at the beginning of the season. He is in a new country, playing in a new league, with new teammates and a new coach. Throw in the fact he is use to playing with the ball in his hands. The kid plays better than average defense, his vision is above average and his shooting isn't as bad as first thought. The real issues are his poor conditioning and his passiveness. Two things I think he can over come with experience and working on his body and game. Jazz fans are way too impatient some times.
I think Exum will at least be an elite defensive player at the PG spot. He's shown flashes of that. He's also shown an ability to make smart, well-executed passes.
The only question is what he'll be as an offensive player. With his length and speed, he can raise up for an open jumper just about whenever he wants, and he can get a step on just about any guard in the league. Then the only question is what he does with it.
The only question is what he'll be as an offensive player. With his length and speed, he can raise up for an open jumper just about whenever he wants, and he can get a step on just about any guard in the league. Then the only question is what he does with it.
Jazz4ever
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The tradeoff of having two traditional bigs like Gobert and Favors is there aren't going to be that many driving lanes for Exum. The ineffectiveness of Burks earlier this year on his drives supported this as well.
Exum currently needs to work on a floater from about 10' and improve his shooting.
Comparisons are never perfect. You can't compare a player to himself. Just thought Johnson looked a lot like Jimmy Butler out there when he was taking to the Utes.
Johnson is Ron Artest physically, that is pretty much a perfect comparison.
Hayward should sit down with him in the offseason IMO and really mentor him. I mean if you look at those 2, Exum has more of less the same tools as Hayward with the exception of an off the dribble jumper. They both pass very well, have decent handle and are very smart.