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Following potential 2015 draftees

PKM said:
Kind of surprised, tbh. Not because he doesn't deserve it or because of his stats/minutes, but because (loosely related to the aforementioned) he has had limited ability to showcase his full arsenal. He is a vastly underrated slasher and defender. Not saying he's elite, just that those aspects are not yet well known. He, too, is just an insanely talented scorer. Most UK fans (even the hand full of sane ones) are already saying Booker is the best shooter in UK history. A little early for that crown, but impossible to discount it too.
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I think a lot of teams would love to use a #14 pick on a guy they hope could become a Kyle Korver clone. Someone else said the name already. But everything he additionally brings to the table is a bonus.

Carbon13 said:
Saw earlier that Devin Booker has a short wingspan. I like Devin Booker's game a lot but his short arms makes me nervous about his potential on the defensive end. I believe length is almost a prerequisite to be a great defender. Here's a list of some of the top 3 and D guys wingspans:

Klay Thompson 6' 9"
Danny Green 6' 10"
Kyle Korver 6' 9.5"
Wes Matthews 6' 8.25"
Paul George 6' 11.25"
Kawhi Leonard 7' 3"
Andre Iguodala 6' 11"

Stanley Johnson 6' 11", D'Angelo Russell 6' 8", Justise Winslow 6' 10", and Oubre 7' 1" all make the requisite length, but Booker falls well short at 6' 6" wingspan.

I hate to reduce a player effectiveness based only on length but I think you could make a very good argument that length matters a lot on the D side of the 3 and D player.
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Have you tried finding guys with a short wingspan who have the reputation of a perimeter defender?

PKM said:
commentators sayin "Book'm!" every time he hits a shot.

awful.
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I think it's kinda lame to do these wordplays after a hit.
If you do these you gotta be confident and do it during the shot. Counts for commentators as well.
We got a guy who's automatic from the left corner. When someone swings it to him in games the whole stadium starts a long drawn out "Steeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeve" until he sinks his shot.

I like Booker for the fact that he has a beautiful stroke and some more upside. The youth factor isn't to underestimate. Didn't know that before someone pointed it out how young he is. Overlooked factor that's especially important at such a young age.

I like having a good shooter on the court. Especially since Exum, Gordon and Burks need the ball to be efficient. Korver and DeMarre not needing touches to be productive is a huge reason why Atlanta is so deadly.
 
BTP said:
Have you tried finding guys with a short wingspan who have the reputation of a perimeter defender?
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If I remember correctly Butler isn't particularly long, I thought he had a small case of alligator arms for his size ?
 
All I want out of the 2015 pick is a long, freakishly athletic, knock down shooter that always makes the right decision and is a defensive stopper. Thats it.
 
Ron Baker would be a very interesting guy to look at for us in the 2nd round. He'd be a good fit in both culture, system and team need imo though he may be suspect on defense.

FWIW, at the 2, he's longer than Hayward with a 6'8.5" wingspan.
 
Beer said:
All I want out of the 2015 pick is a long, freakishly athletic, knock down shooter that always makes the right decision and is a defensive stopper. Thats it.
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I think that is exactly what the Jazz need. I really like Oubre for this reason because he has a 7' 2" wingspan, is athletic, and shoots it well. I'm just not sure if he is a shot creator.

How important is the ability to create own shot in a continuity offense? I heard that the Warriors love Draymond Green because he does everything except for create his own shot - which they don't think really matters much in the big picture.
 
Most good defenders have excellent wingspans. As Jimmy Butler has shown, it is possible to be a good defender with a poor wingspan, but it's certainly a lot more difficult. Just takes smarts and effort. Hell, even JJ Redick turned himself into a pretty dang good perimeter defender, for quite a few years he was Orlando's best perimeter defender. It's all about effort man.
 
I know Cy has brought him up before, and while I've never seen him, Tyler Harvey is having a great year.

Averaging 24 points a game, and shooting 48.6% from 3 on 9 attempts a game. 9 attempts!! That's ludicrous, especially because he's the guy on that team that has all of the defensive attention on him. Only a sophomore. It'll be interesting to see if he declares (really unlikely), and how his jr and sr years turn out.
 
Players I don't know much about, but want to learn more on cause they're having good years/careers:

Desharick Guidry - McNeese State - SR: Listed at 6'5 and 200, he's averaging 17.6/11.7 on 52% shooting and 41% from 3 on 2 attempts a game. I always like guards/forwards who can rebound like this, and it seems like he can at least hit open shots. Don't see how he couldn't at the very least do what Baby Sap is doing.

Josh Hawkinson - Wazzu - SO: Listed at 6'10 and 240, averaging 15 and 10 on 49.5% shooting while shooting 80% from the line. Seems to have a good touch, nice size. At some point could be like Ryan Anderson, maybe.

Jake Layman - Maryland - JR: 6'9 and 205, averages 14/6 while shooting 42% from deep on 3 attempts a game. Long and athletic.

Tyrone Wallace - Cal - JR: 6'5 and 200, averages 18/8/4 on 45% shooting. Good size and production. And I think every team should have a Tyrone.
 
Hantlers said:
Players I don't know much about, but want to learn more on cause they're having good years/careers:

Desharick Guidry - McNeese State - SR: Listed at 6'5 and 200, he's averaging 17.6/11.7 on 52% shooting and 41% from 3 on 2 attempts a game. I always like guards/forwards who can rebound like this, and it seems like he can at least hit open shots. Don't see how he couldn't at the very least do what Baby Sap is doing.

Josh Hawkinson - Wazzu - SO: Listed at 6'10 and 240, averaging 15 and 10 on 49.5% shooting while shooting 80% from the line. Seems to have a good touch, nice size. At some point could be like Ryan Anderson, maybe.

Jake Layman - Maryland - JR: 6'9 and 205, averages 14/6 while shooting 42% from deep on 3 attempts a game. Long and athletic.

Tyrone Wallace - Cal - JR: 6'5 and 200, averages 18/8/4 on 45% shooting. Good size and production. And I think every team should have a Tyrone.
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Delon Wright.
 
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