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... and so do we, the fans. This has been the most lazy week of Utah Jazz basketball I have ever seen. Does anyone not named Deron give a damn?

Wherever Deron goes after his stint with the Jazz, I will become a fan of. I will not tolerate being a fan of a lazy basketball team.
 
Don't worry, he will leave when his contract is up and he will be courted very highly because he is obviously the #1 Point Guard the league has seen in the last 5 years. What Rajon Rondo did today was a fluke and Deron's awful play today was once in a million. I can already smell Laker fans pining for Deron.
 
Who gives a rat's *** if he's the #1 point guard or not? It doesn't ****ing matter! It's not about being the best at your position. The simple fact is he needs better players around him. Kirilenko, Bell, and the dreadful (he will be for most of the season going forward) Millsap are NOT going to get it done. He needs shooters so that he doesn't get collapsed on. RONDO, NASH, all those guys have shooters around them to help spread the floor and take the pressure off of them. It helps out more than you think.
 
This thread is more Jazzfanz bull crap.


Deron could have left the first time. He has got just what he wanted. His boys to stick around with increased rolls...Milsap and CJ. Minor exception is Brewer being shipped. The whole system tweeked so he can do whatever he wants out there with zero culpability with reduced roles for anybody in existence prior to his arrival. A media and fan base totally in awe. Boozer gone. An increased leadership role. Locke even mentioned the things the franchise does in the background to keep Mr. Moody happy. This is his ship, The Captain has to figure out how to right it.

So now that the team hits a rough patch? Mr. Leadership pouts to show his competitiveness.

Remember, Williams was the one who proudly proclaimed that he was going to make George Jefferson an All Star.


Everybody is a super star when everything goes right. It is his team just as much when they suck.
 
FYI - the whole starting five sucked. Watching the game it was obvious that Rondo has better talent around him. However, DW sucked tonight. I might have been his worse game this year and top 5 of his career.
 
My problem is more with the laziness within the team. I'm tired of watching these lazy slobs play with no effort. They're professionals for God's sake, play like it!
 
I don't feel sorry for Deron at all. He gets paid, and paid very well, to play a game. And if he chooses to leave then **** him, he will be the enemy and he will be booed vociferously when he visits. Deron is NOT the Utah Jazz, and the team would be foolish just to do things to make him happy. Because that worked so well for Cleveland.
 
The Pearl said:
This thread is more Jazzfanz bull crap.


Deron could have left the first time. He has got just what he wanted. His boys to stick around with increased rolls...Milsap and CJ. Minor exception is Brewer being shipped. The whole system tweeked so he can do whatever he wants out there with zero culpability with reduced roles for anybody in existence prior to his arrival. A media and fan base totally in awe. Boozer gone. An increased leadership role. Locke even mentioned the things the franchise does in the background to keep Mr. Moody happy. This is his ship, The Captain has to figure out how to right it.

So now that the team hits a rough patch? Mr. Leadership pouts to show his competitiveness.

Remember, Williams was the one who proudly proclaimed that he was going to make George Jefferson an All Star.


Everybody is a super star when everything goes right. It is his team just as much when they suck.
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Good post. Mr. Surly needs to start looking in the mirror. A true leader would be putting this recent play on himself, saying that he has to do better. But I think its quite clear from his attitude that he thinks his **** don't stink.
 
D-Will was carrying this team and that's why we started off the way we did. Now he's pissed because the team doesn't run the offense as good as the previous teams did. It's not his fault the FO kept certain players and got rid of others. LHM wouldn't have paid CJ at that price. Deron doesn't control the FO, and you can't blame him if the FO caved to him.
 
Sloanfeld said:
D-Will was carrying this team and that's why we started off the way we did. Now he's pissed because the team doesn't run the offense as good as the previous teams did. It's not his fault the FO kept certain players and got rid of others. LHM wouldn't have paid CJ at that price. Deron doesn't control the FO, and you can't blame him if the FO caved to him.
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Umm.... LHM was the one that OK'd matching CJ's contract with OKC. And LHM was the one that signed AK to that horrific contract.

But Deron needs to step up and be a leader and not a pouty whiny little bitch. He needs to take some responsibility.
 
Jeditiger said:
Umm.... LHM was the one that OK'd matching CJ's contract with OKC. And LHM was the one that signed AK to that horrific contract.

But Deron needs to step up and be a leader and not a pouty whiny little bitch. He needs to take some responsibility.
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I recall LHM being in the hospital that summer and Greg taking over the decisions. Didn't LHM say that he would not have matched, or something to the effect of it being ridiculous?
 
Deron 'Best Point gaurd in the League'? He wasn't even the best pg on his team or in the top 3 pgs in the game tonite.

Have you ever stopped to consider that part of the problem is Deron? 1-st off he's so pissy that Coach sloan has to let him call all the plays. Stockton in his 18th year still looked to Sloan for the play. Deron ought to give the reigns back to Sloan.

2nd--ty Corbin said after the Washington game that the some players on the team are not patient enough with the offense or there teamates and after a couple of seconds or trips down the floor they try to break down their man one on one. Who does that? Well the anouncers in the Washington game speculated that Deron was getting paid by the dribble that day because he wouldn't give it up.

Finally look at how he treats his coach and his teamates: going all the way back to the Who's Coach Sloan comments, but this year throwing a ball at a teamates head and cussing him out on the home floor? Telling the reporter your PF/C isn't smart enough to learn the plays and doesn't play hard?

Last year the jazz were falling apart on a eastcoast road swing, but turned the season around aftergetting blown out in boston. The next game the team beat Philly then played Clevland to the end without Deron. The team gelled, they played hard and went on to win 9 of 11. I don't think it coincidence that the team came together while Deron was gone. He's a terriffic talent, but its clear he doesn't work well with others.
 
Sloanfeld said:
I recall LHM being in the hospital that summer and Greg taking over the decisions. Didn't LHM say that he would not have matched, or something to the effect of it being ridiculous?
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You know what, I think I am wrong. Greg had already taken over the ownership. LHM thought it was paying too much at first, but then conceded that it was probably for the best.
 
honz said:
DWill is destroying this franchise.
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The dwill hate is ridiculous... without dwill we'd be skating down around the pistons level...
Get a grip. He's a stud. He had a foul plagued game. He dominates so heartily and regularly that when plays like a mortal for one game he is hailed a loser.

Be rational come on...

22 and 9.5 with a team full of under achievers is pretty ridiculous.
 
Just saying that he needs to be part of the solution and show some leadership, have some accountability. He hasnt exactly been playing so hot himself in our struggles.
 
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