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Middle East War

The Mideast has long been a target for Western manipulations, since the days of the British Empire. With Gandhi, the Brits went to more covert methods than outright colonization.

Our Military Industrial interests live off wars. They don't need to be "World Wars" just continual wars.

I think it is pretty clear our "intelligence" agencies are riddled with little cells of agitators whose job it is to keep supplying these continual wars. Now we have a President who overtly is pro-terrorist. His brother is coming to the White House quite often. His brother is involved in a number of extremist Islamic terrorist groups.

Obama is deliberately setting us up for internal terrorism attacks and intends to extend police-state governmental powers when the next wave of terrorism hits.

Yes, the ISIS militants talk about coming to America and the white house and beheading Obama. . . . that's just how crazy they are. All these extremists are misinformed puppets of US/western operatives, fed one mouthful of ideas. . . . while other groups are fed other ideas. This is the principle outlined by Machiavelli for a method of asserting power by creating sharply divided political conditions in the target area, and offering to come in with soldiers/cops to "restore order".

What we call Islamic "extremists" are hardly real believers in Allah, although historically there have been some who did. Today they are phonies who really believe in Western ideological concepts like fascism, statism, communism, and such. But no totalitarian really cares about ideology, just the power.

As long as this is the road to power, power-hungry folks will flock in to build it up.

However, it is equally true that we have determined warhawks who want to push it to the World War level.
 

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So Turkey and Saudi Arabia at considering a joint ground operation in northern Syria. Saudi Arabia is already stationing troops in Turkey including warplanes.

https://abcnews.go.com/Internationa...dia-saudi-arabia-turkey-strike-syria-36913078

Of course Russia is dead set against this and raised the possibility of "a new world war".

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wo...warns-of-new-world-war-starting-in-Syria.html

Aleppo is a city that the Syrian gov and Russian forces are pushing to take back. A ground invasion by Turkey and Saudi Arabia would put forces from both sides in close proximity to each other.

Keep in mind that Saudi Arabia leads the new Arab League coalition (20ish Arab nations including Egypt, Pakistan and Jordan) and Turkey is a NATO country and AT LEAST has American (war planes) and Spanich (Patriot middle systems) forces on its territory.

Interesting. The Saudi/Turkey plan is particularly eye catching.
 
Obama is deliberately setting us up for internal terrorism attacks and intends to extend police-state governmental powers when the next wave of terrorism hits.

He is taking his sweet time with his diabolical plan then. He has been in office for almost 2 full terms now and nothing major has happened yet right? He is almost out of office. He is running out of time to execute his plan.
 
Would the Western forces get away if the MiddleEastern folk gave away all their oil? Or is there something else too they value?
 
Would the Western forces get away if the MiddleEastern folk gave away all their oil? Or is there something else too they value?

If there was no oil the outside interest would certainly lessen but there is still strategic control. Middle east will always have meddlers.
 
Bomb attack in Ankara during the red light wait of two army buses. 28 dead 61 wounded as of now. Didn't know where to put this. Turkish news don't hit here usually. Just feel awful. God damn every kind of terrorism.
 
Bomb attack in Ankara during the red light wait of two army buses. 28 dead 61 wounded as of now. Didn't know where to put this. Turkish news don't hit here usually. Just feel awful. God damn every kind of terrorism.

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Bomb attack in Ankara during the red light wait of two army buses. 28 dead 61 wounded as of now. Didn't know where to put this. Turkish news don't hit here usually. Just feel awful. God damn every kind of terrorism.

I was just reading this.

IMO whoever did this wants Turkey, and by extension possibly Saudi Arabia and others (Qatar, UAE, Jordan...), to go into Syria with ground troops. They are begging for it.

Turkey is already shelling across the border and has, from last I read, at least 6 brigades of vehicles along the Syrian border.

Then Saudi Arabia has planes in southern Turkey at their airbases. And they, along with UAE and Qatar, have offered ground troops in some capacity.

The people doing this are practically begging for Turkey to go into Syria. Because when this happens turkey looks south.

Scary stuff.
 
He is taking his sweet time with his diabolical plan then. He has been in office for almost 2 full terms now and nothing major has happened yet right? He is almost out of office. He is running out of time to execute his plan.

I had someone who I thought was reasonably intelligent say to me with a straight face that Obama was going to declare a state of emergency and not relinquish the white house when his term was over.

I get the feeling that people who hate Obama just make up their own reality when it comes to who he is and what he's done.

If he's worse than your average president over the last 40 years I just don't see it. I didn't support him before he became the president, and I didn't vote to re-elect him, but I've been pleasantly surprised by him as our president.
 
I had someone who I thought was reasonably intelligent say to me with a straight face that Obama was going to declare a state of emergency and not relinquish the white house when his term was over.

I get the feeling that people who hate Obama just make up their own reality when it comes to who he is and what he's done.

If he's worse than your average president over the last 40 years I just don't see it. I didn't support him before he became the president, and I didn't vote to re-elect him, but I've been pleasantly surprised by him as our president.

He has just been a president to me. Far better than some. I have specific areas I don't care for his policies.

But all this conspiracy talk is bogus. One area I am pretty disappointed in is that race relations seem to have worsened. I don't blame him, I blame all of us. Missed chance to make things better.
 

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Yeah it sucks. Thanks m'man.
I was just reading this.

IMO whoever did this wants Turkey, and by extension possibly Saudi Arabia and others (Qatar, UAE, Jordan...), to go into Syria with ground troops. They are begging for it.

Turkey is already shelling across the border and has, from last I read, at least 6 brigades of vehicles along the Syrian border.

Then Saudi Arabia has planes in southern Turkey at their airbases. And they, along with UAE and Qatar, have offered ground troops in some capacity.

The people doing this are practically begging for Turkey to go into Syria. Because when this happens turkey looks south.

Scary stuff.

No ****. PM announced that it was a Syrian Kurdish Terrorist Group. At least this is what they say. I don't know what to believe I read in the news anymore.
 
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