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This highlight mix gives you a great glimpse at his upside.

Not only are there highlight reel dunks, but also a crazy pass, blocking ability, and crafty finishing ability around the rim.

Then you throw in that he can go off and shoot 8/8 from 3...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s97sRoz-xag
 
spycam1 said:
This highlight mix gives you a great glimpse at his upside.

Not only are there highlight reel dunks, but also a crazy pass, blocking ability, and crafty finishing ability around the rim.

Then you throw in that he can go off and shoot 8/8 from 3...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s97sRoz-xag
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OK, but how is he shooting it off the dribble? That's quite important if you're gonna succeed in the NBA.
 
Stifle Tower said:
I'm officially on board with drafting the best wing or PG available.
Our bigs are dominant. All 4 have different skill sets and Quin can mix and match to go big or small as needed. Getting a late first or early 2nd just isn't a good enough return for Enes. I say we match on Kanter (since we have cap space) and improve our glaring weakness in the backcourt.
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You're ignoring the time component necessary to develop a drafted wing. In 4 years, Favors and Hayward could be off the team, maxed by a big market. I think it makes sense to go after one in FA, just select the best player available in the draft regardless of position.
 
My goodness Hezonja has the ****tiest contract I have seen in Europe. 3 + 4 ? Really? Anyway my guess is he will not pick up the 4 year option :rolleyes: He'll either come to the NBA or renegotiate a more NBA friendly deal because once he picks up the option he'll pretty much has to stay their for at least 3 years.
 
Primetime said:
My goodness Hezonja has the ****tiest contract I have seen in Europe. 3 + 4 ? Really? Anyway my guess is he will not pick up the 4 year option :rolleyes: He'll either come to the NBA or renegotiate a more NBA friendly deal because once he picks up the option he'll pretty much has to stay their for at least 3 years.
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Well, not really, it just means that the team that drafts him will have to pay 2M when they want to get him over to the US... The buy-out clause still applies even if he exercises his option... I think the contract was engineered by his agents precisely for the draft purposes - get him the option to opt out and leave if there is enough interest from the NBA, or if things go bad - get him some financial security and a 4 year contract past the date they had planned for entering the draft...
 
spycam1 said:
I'd take him over Porz, for sure.

And I'd consider taking him over Johnson (a guy I've pimped a lot). Johnson is a good shooter and athlete, but Mario looks even better in both those categories. He's also been filling out his frame nicely. He's not as big as Johnson, but he's got good size, especially for someone that age. It's close between them, but I think Mario probably has more potential.
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Very true but i think scout are going to give the nod to johnson over hezonja because he is a know commodity ans is the best player on one of the best teams in the NCAA where as hezonja is a bench player on one of the best teams in Europe. Johnson will be able to play day one in the NBA and Hezonja will need a little development.

I also think Porzingis goes before hime because teams seem to be coveting stretch 4s and he is a very good stretch 4. Size seems to always win.
 
Crocodile Dante said:
Very true but i think scout are going to give the nod to johnson over hezonja because he is a know commodity ans is the best player on one of the best teams in the NCAA where as hezonja is a bench player on one of the best teams in Europe. Johnson will be able to play day one in the NBA and Hezonja will need a little development.

I also think Porzingis goes before hime because teams seem to be coveting stretch 4s and he is a very good stretch 4. Size seems to always win.
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I'd be good with that if that's how things shake up. Mario could be the gem people regret passing on.
 
stitches said:
Well, not really, it just means that the team that drafts him will have to pay 2M when they want to get him over to the US... The buy-out clause still applies even if he exercises his option... I think the contract was engineered by his agents precisely for the draft purposes - get him the option to opt out and leave if there is enough interest from the NBA, or if things go bad - get him some financial security and a 4 year contract past the date they had planned for entering the draft...
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You might be right. Those buyout rules for international players are not one of my strongsuites about the CBA.
 
Couldn't watch the OSU game, but I saw they have suspended Marc Loving indefinitely. That is a huge blow to their team. Dude might have been the best 3pt shooter in the Nation. Going to make ish a lot harder on Russell for the rest of the year.
 
Cy said:
Couldn't watch the OSU game, but I saw they have suspended Marc Loving indefinitely. That is a huge blow to their team. Dude might have been the best 3pt shooter in the Nation. Going to make ish a lot harder on Russell for the rest of the year.
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making excuses already .. for an adopted team/player, no less.
 
Crocodile Dante said:
you dont have to be a fan to have other people like him. How many 7 footers do you know that can shoot 40% from 3? that is what seems to get peoples attention
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Bargnani.

Tskitishvili.

Lampe.

Charlie Villanueva (almost 7'0)

Spencer Hawes.

Nick Fazekas.

Kevin Pittsnoggle.

BJ Mullens.

Montijiuenas.

Jon Leuer.

Kelly Olynynk.

Meyers Leonard.

Ryan Kelly.

Alec Brown.

And obviously Dirk.

Dirk kinda looks like the outlier of the group tbh. Most of the players outright suck, some are pretty decent, and then there's Dirk. Saying that Porz is gonna be like Dirk is pretty ridiculous iMO, they're not even similar players.
 
Jazz4ever said:
You're ignoring the time component necessary to develop a drafted wing. In 4 years, Favors and Hayward could be off the team, maxed by a big market. I think it makes sense to go after one in FA, just select the best player available in the draft regardless of position.
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Agree. BPA is obviously in play, but when ratings are very similar, you go for position of need. And I think in say the 5-8 range or 9-12, rankings will be very similar amongst a group of 4-5 players.
 
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Hantlers said:
Bargnani.

Tskitishvili.

Lampe.

Charlie Villanueva (almost 7'0)

Spencer Hawes.

Nick Fazekas.

Kevin Pittsnoggle.

BJ Mullens.

Montijiuenas.

Jon Leuer.

Kelly Olynynk.

Meyers Leonard.

Ryan Kelly.

Alec Brown.

And obviously Dirk.

Dirk kinda looks like the outlier of the group tbh. Most of the players outright suck, some are pretty decent, and then there's Dirk. Saying that Porz is gonna be like Dirk is pretty ridiculous iMO, they're not even similar players.
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If you are going to put dudes that are not 7 feet tall in there then I think you should include dudes like memo and channing frye.

Not that I care. I don't have a dog in this fight.
 
fishonjazz said:
If you are going to put dudes that are not 7 feet tall in there then I think you should include dudes like memo and channing frye.

Not that I care. I don't have a dog in this fight.
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Good call. Can't believe I forgot Okur. My point still stands.
 
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