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Would You Trade Favors for Cousins?

Would You Trade Favors for Cousins?

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I mean this positively toward Cy.. But this is your most transparently objective thread, post by post, I have seen. No hyperbole to either the good or bad. Well done. My respect level increases. (Which probably lends itself poorly to board cred)
 
LMAOOOOO

This kinda ish is the reason we will never be a great team. Cousins is a ****ing beast and brings exactly what we need, a go-to scorer. He's a top 10-15 player in the whole league. Favors is like top 35-50. I love Faves but only max homers wouldn't make this trade. The dude whines a bit? He also plays for the ****ing Kings who wouldn't? Do points and rebs not count if you whine during the game? Y'all dumb. I'd throw in our first rounder this year (top Russell protection).
 
Cy said:
By what metric?

Cousins gets more points per shot than Favors does.
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What percentage off the teams offense is Cousins compared to Favors. Favors is scoring at a pretty high percentage based on the amount the offense goes through him. Cousins usually gets a large percentage of the teams shot clock possessing the ball and jacks up a lot of crappy shots. I think Cousins is most like Al Jefferson but a better passer, he needs the ball a lot to get his points.

Players dont like to play with guys who jack up crappy shots. Another reason he is mentally weak on the court.
 
Bawse Dawg said:
LMAOOOOO

This kinda ish is the reason we will never be a great team. Cousins is a ****ing beast and brings exactly what we need, a go-to scorer. He's a top 10-15 player in the whole league. Favors is like top 35-50. I love Faves but only max homers wouldn't make this trade. The dude whines a bit? He also plays for the ****ing Kings who wouldn't? Do points and rebs not count if you whine during the game? Y'all dumb. I'd throw in our first rounder this year (top Russell protection).
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His whining is annoying but not a reason not to have him on the team. Taking plays off every game, pouting and not really playing defense most possessions is a reason not to want him.

Is Cousins better than Love last season? Love had better stats than Cousins last year and the defense is about the same. Plus Love hits threes and is a better passer than Cousins.

Would you trade Favors for Love?
 
Broncster said:
His whining is annoying but not a reason not to have him on the team. Taking plays off every game, pouting and not really playing defense most possessions is a reason not to want him.

Is Cousins better than Love last season? Love had better stats than Cousins last year and the defense is about the same. Plus Love hits threes and is a better passer than Cousins.

Would you trade Favors for Love?
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I'd have to think about it. But I also disagree with the comparison. And no one is as bad as Love on D.
 
Bawse Dawg said:
I'd have to think about it. But I also disagree with the comparison. And no one is as bad as Love on D.
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When Cousins puts effort on D he might be better than Love but Cousins often goes the Boozer route and does not even try, which once again shows he is mentally weak. I think Love is a great comparison a player that put up monster numbers on a ****ty team that had no one else to score.
 
I take DMC w/o asking any questions and making the call to the league office the minute Kings GM hangs up the phone. That's a no questions asked for me.

You guys serious?

DWS:
Derrick: 1.3
DMC: 2.0

DefRtg:
Derrick:
108.2[On-Court], 103.7[Off-Court], -4.5[On-Off Difference]
DMC:
100.8[On-Court], 111.8[Off-Court], +11[On-Off Difference]

NetRtg:
Derrick:
-3.1[On-Court], -3.7[Off-Court], +0.6[On-Off Difference]
DMC:
3.8[On-Court], -12.7[Off-Court], +16.5[On-Off Difference]

DMC takes plays off they say. So do a lot of other stars. DMC has that kind of impact Gordon has on our games. And Gordon has been awesome this season and so has DMC. Derrick has not the same impact on a game that Cousins has. Fans are biased towards their teams but at least try to stay reasonable sometimes. And that would be one of those times...
 
I find it interesting that some of the people saying Cousins is a bad idea are the same people who were saying that Exum was a good idea. Based on the logic of high risk, high reward, no less.

Even though I think Cousins is almost no risk.
 
Nope, Cousins is more talented, but has a "Josh Smith" mentality on offense. He takes a ton of long jumpers he simply isn't good at. His TS% is still rather low this year for a big, and historically not first option worthy.
 
JimLes said:
I find it interesting that some of the people saying Cousins is a bad idea are the same people who were saying that Exum was a good idea. Based on the logic of high risk, high reward, no less.

Even though I think Cousins is almost no risk.
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Because thinking Exum will develop is different than giving up a good player on our team for a different player. We dont have to give up a player to keep Exum on our team.
 
I just like the defensive potential our team has right now. Favors has improved every year and done everything we've ever asked of him. I think he will be very good.
 
Primetime said:
DMC takes plays off they say. So do a lot of other stars.
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Taking a few plays off on defense throughout the season when your team is winning and making the playoffs is different than taking large chunks of games off and losing. DMC is talented enough to make this team competitive he chooses not to play at a high level. He chooses to not play defense for entire games. He chooses to throw up really bad shots throughout the game. Maybe he turns it all around in the right situation and becomes a great player but I find that unlikely to happen here in Utah and I think it may never happen. He is not a mentally strong player that puts it all on the line and is striving to make his team better and himself better. I think that the Mental aspect of basketball is just as important as the physical side. I dont think he has the mental fortitude to win. I think his mental weakness will be exposed if he is ever on a playoff team. I cant see him keeping it together in multiple close physical 7 game series.
 
Broncster said:
Taking a few plays off on defense throughout the season when your team is winning and making the playoffs is different than taking large chunks of games off and losing. DMC is talented enough to make this team competitive he chooses not to play at a high level. He chooses to not play defense for entire games. He chooses to throw up really bad shots throughout the game. Maybe he turns it all around in the right situation and becomes a great player but I find that unlikely to happen here in Utah and I think it may never happen. He is not a mentally strong player that puts it all on the line and is striving to make his team better and himself better. I think that the Mental aspect of basketball is just as important as the physical side. I dont think he has the mental fortitude to win. I think his mental weakness will be exposed if he is ever on a playoff team. I cant see him keeping it together in multiple close physical 7 game series.
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He is doing all that and still has the time to be the better player and has a bigger impact on games?
 
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