Jazz @ Sixers, 1/22/11, 5:30 Utah time
- Thread starter Jerry Lundegaard
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Ask Jerry's gut. That's what he uses.
Chad Feldheimer
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memo is money
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If you think Carlos was really a inside presence, then you do not have a freakin' idea about your lovely Boozerica at all. I do not want to see you fail again Sloany. Are you sure?
About last year, for example, +50% of Boozer's points came from two man games with Deron. Only 22% of his positions were post-ups + midrange plays. That's hardly being an inside presence. He was very efficient and effective in what he tries to do, which is certainly not owning the paint on offense or defense. PnR is the most difficult basketball play to defend and suppose that one team was able to defend the PnR really well, then I assure that Boozer's efficiency and numbers would drop abruptly. An inside presence is very rare in today's NBA. Jefferson is one of them but not one of the best. He is not efficient and consistent at all. You should expect an "inside" player to shoot the ball well. For that reason and because he still has a hard time reading plays, hitting the cutters, selecting his shots and still not being able build a special PnR connection with Deron, BigAl is nowhere close to where Carlos was as a Jazz player, offensively. Should we talk about what an inside presence means on defensive end of the floor? That's why I cannot regard Carlos even as an elite player, star, leader player. The game consist of defense and offense.
Cocaine
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Well, it certainly wasn't 20, but a win regardless! =p
Inn Dawn
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Where do you put Okur in that mix? Is Okur even a leader player? Whatever that is?
//r00t 4 Jazz
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I'm just questioning this part cause uhhmmm did you see what they did against Atlanta last week in the 4th Qtr and OT?
Oh and Sloanfeld Booz avg FT per game for his career is 4.3 (that is 2 trips to the line a game) just thought I'd let you know.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/boozeca01.html
memo is money
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I would certainly not put Okur in "leader" or "star" player category. He was a big part of Jazz team and was also responsible for a big part of what the Jazz were able to do and not able to do. He is not a classic center and his presence was a big reason for near perfect Jazz offense troughout the years, he and Carlos were arguably the best offensive frontcourt tandem in the NBA. They were defensively one of the worst tandem, by the way.
Pre-injury Memo was the 3rd string, weapon after Boozer and Dwill and he was one of the clutchest players in the league, who has been the most reliable Jazz player in crunch time. He was much more than a prototype role player in the NBA but certainly not a leader or cornerstone player. Post-injury Memo is yet to be seen at full health. I'm encouraged by the fact that Elton Brand, who also had a similar injury, can still affect many games, help his team really well. The bad thing is it took a couple of years for him to be able to do so. I sincerely do not expect him to be a big part of the system but he will be a game, momentum changer, a solid player.
Actually, after watching this new look Jazz team up to this point of the season, I would really think about benching one of Al and Paul and putting Memo into the lineup, if he had been healthy. The Jazz have become way more predictable on offense and their court spreading, floor spacing, passing from post, passing traffic, game pace, inside-out balance, efficiency, and unfortunately -for a month- defense, has been terrible. Defenses are able to pressure Deron much more and collapse on defense.