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Jazz Bucks Trade, Would You Do It?

Trade?

  • Yes

    Votes: 16 53.3%

  • No

    Votes: 10 33.3%

  • I'd want more in the deal

    Votes: 4 13.3%

  • Only if they take Burke too

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    30
tonstermits said:
Also better than keeping Kanter.
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How? Kanter has plenty of warts, but it's pretty unlikely the 18th pick in the draft is a difference-maker or any better than Kanter. Ilyasova is junk. Can someone please attempt to explain why the Jazz should pull the trigger on a trade like this?

If the Jazz can't get decent value for Kanter, hold onto him and see what happens this summer. Maybe the Jazz are able to sign someone else with the cap savings (from not acquiring Ilyasova), maybe Kanter comes around ans re-signs with the Jazz, maybe there's a sign-and-trade opportunity. Worst case scenario, the Jazz don't find anyone better to sign, Kanter accepts the QO and tells the Jazz he won't re-sign in 2016. The Jazz have another whole year to try to trade Kanter. For all those possible opportunities, the Jazz give up the 18th pick in the draft. Seems like a no-brainer to me.
 
It's essentially trading Kanter for a late 1st-rounder plus taking on $8 million in salary for two years -- no way, Jose. Would be better just to get the pick and not take on the salary of a player who would not be part of the Jazz's future. Maybe add Novak to the mix and get a second pick, because you shed Novak's salary in addition to Enes's to offset Ilyasova. Then maybe I would consider it. Still have to pay Ilyasova in 2016-2017.
 
I posted this trade idea about a week ago in a different thread. I still like it. EI has been struggling with injuries since his big contract and a fresh start might serve him well. I think his ability to be a Stretch 4 would be ideal for this team. If Utah included Burke, I would like for Bucks to include Kris Middleton.
 
if it was Kanter for the first round pick straight up yes. but it's not worth picking up the toxic contract for a late first round pick.
 
I'd take Henson and the #18 pick for Kanter.

Just silly to take on a long-term salary dump. Just look at the player we got in Booker for $5M/per. Grab a couple of players of that caliber as FA's if Utah decides not to match for Kanter.
 
None of those options are really that appealing.

Jazz need to hold firm. Young player with potential and/a lottery pick or **** off.

The only way to get the deal you want is the willingness to be the guy to walk away. I'd love for them to move him, but if it's just crap offers, then they're better off having him come off the bench and focus on his role as a 3rd big. Otherwise, he loses his bird rights.

I'd rather they keep him (disgruntled or not) and just keep developing him for 2 more years than give him away. Who knows what can change in that time frame.

Middleton (strait up) or Antentokumnpo (plus a helluva lot more) are the only two deals the Jazz should even consider for the Bucks.

Buy low. Sell high. Not the other way around.
 
Ellis269 said:
None of those options are really that appealing.

Jazz need to hold firm. Young player with potential and/a lottery pick or **** off.

The only way to get the deal you want is the willingness to be the guy to walk away. I'd love for them to move him, but if it's just crap offers, then they're better off having him come off the bench and focus on his role as a 3rd big. Otherwise, he loses his bird rights.

I'd rather they keep him (disgruntled or not) and just keep developing him for 2 more years than give him away. Who knows what can change in that time frame.

Middleton (strait up) or Antentokumnpo (plus a helluva lot more) are the only two deals the Jazz should even consider for the Bucks.

Buy low. Sell high. Not the other way around.
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Good post.
I would add jabari in with middleton and giannis though
 
Middleton (strait up) or Antentokumnpo (plus a helluva lot more) are the only two deals the Jazz should even consider for the Bucks.
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You must be smoking a "Jeffrey," because Giannis is worth a lot more around the league than Middleton and Kanter, probably combined.
 
Jeffrey32 said:
You must be smoking a "Jeffrey," because Giannis is worth a lot more around the league than Middleton and Kanter, probably combined.
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I think he was indicating that the Jazz would have to give up a helluva lot more. Not the way you read it. At least I hope for his sake that is what he meant.
 
Pros to trading Kanter:
We give more playing time to the deserving Gobert.
We probably get a little worse which helps our draft pick.
We get something in return for a player that doesn't want to be here and doesn't seem to fit into Snyder's style.

Cons:
We might take back salary, which supposedly might gender giving out max money.
Kanter might develope into something because he's 22 and has some skills.
No offers that we are willing to take for him.
 
I would want more in the deal. Like I said in the other thread, Ily makes $8,000,000 per season. He'd worth around $5,000,000 per season as a packup PF who can stretch the floor. So we would need $$$, another pick or a sweet contract to make that trade.
 
Doublea said:
Pros to trading Kanter:
We give more playing time to the deserving Gobert.
We probably get a little worse which helps our draft pick.
We get something in return for a player that doesn't want to be here and doesn't seem to fit into Snyder's style.

Cons:
We might take back salary, which supposedly might gender giving out max money.
Kanter might develope into something because he's 22 and has some skills.
No offers that we are willing to take for him.
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This is a reason we don't trade him, not a con to trading him.
 
gregbroncs said:
I think he was indicating that the Jazz would have to give up a helluva lot more. Not the way you read it. At least I hope for his sake that is what he meant.
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Yep. That's exactly what I meant. I could live with a Middleton for Kanter swap (but I'd prefer to get a pick back if they can swing it because both are RFAs and bigs>>>wings), but I'd prefer the Jazz to try to pool assets for a blockbuster deal to get a potential All-Star.

I'd give any and all assets that the Jazz can legally give over the next 5 years that are not named Gobert, Hayward, Favors or Exum. Pretty sure tgat Burks has to prove he's healthy before anyone else takes on his contract, so that's Kanter's Bird rights, Burke, Hood and/or any combination of draft picks to pull it off. That's the kind of deal I was hoping they'd cut next year, but with the cap going up and Kanter's unknown contract status. . . I think now might be the time to be buyers and cut a deal. Giannis is on that list. I'd offer a package comparable to what the Lakers have up for Howard - and after the TV contract kicks in. . . draft picks will be much more valuable assets than they are right now.

Totally forgot about Parker, but I'd be down with that too. Jazz need another guy to add to the new and improved Core4.
 
The Jazz would pass on a trade this bad, would give Enes the qualifying offer, would consider matching him in FA, and would then trade him next year for a deal no worse than this one.
 
Catchall said:
The Jazz would pass on a trade this bad, would give Enes the qualifying offer, would consider matching him in FA, and would then trade him next year for a deal no worse than this one.
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That is an interesting point. As long as the offer isn't crazy it could happen. Or we could demand something from the team Kanter signs an offer with so we don't match their offer.
 
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