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Max Out Matthews?

Cy said:
Lol, he is worth wayyyy more than that. Have you watched basketball in the last 3 years? 3pt shooting is extremely important and so is defense, he is top 10 among perimeter players in both things. He is at least worth 13 million, I'd pay like 15.
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You don't pay top dollar for elite role players. You pay close to it, but not top. Isn't starting at 10 a year good for not a big?
 
franklin said:
He's having a career year. Shooting 53% from 2, 40 from 3. He'd fit in perfectly in this system.
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Not only that, but he shoots super high volume from three range, like 3 per game. That is probably the single most valuable thing about his game. That adds a huge dimension to any offense.
 
ElRoach0 said:
You don't pay top dollar for elite role players. You pay close to it, but not top. Isn't starting at 10 a year good for not a big?
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You are missing the point that 14/15 million is going to be the equivalent of 10/11 in 2017.
 
Hack said:
I like the idea of going after Mathews. He's a damn good player.


But I think we first have to swing for the fences with Butler, Draymond, or Leonard. I know people think it's impossible, but it's still worth a try.

If nothing else, then we force one of these teams to pay the max when they might not want to.

Then we target Mathews or Danny Green.
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Not really worth a try. It just means you tie your money up in players who are going to get matched. You float a max offer to Butler and Bulls take 3 days too match. What if an alternative target gets signed in those 3 days? It's just wasting your time. Butler and Leonard are getting maxed out by their respective teams.
 
Cy said:
Not really worth a try. It just means you tie your money up in players who are going to get matched. You float a max offer to Butler and Bulls take 3 days too match. What if an alternative target gets signed in those 3 days? It's just wasting your time. Butler and Leonard are getting maxed out by their respective teams.
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But the NBA is like a game of dominos sometimes. There is a good chance no one gets signed til the top free agents are signed.
 
b_line said:
Aren't these guys the top free agents?
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I'm not a mind reader, so I'm not sure what you are saying. I'm just going to assume you meant that Mathews is a top free agent.

He is in a way. But he is in the next tier down imo. I like him, but he's not in the same tier as Butler and Leonard.
 
b_line said:
Aren't these guys the top free agents?
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If you are asking if Wes and Danny green are the top free agents then I would say no
 
I personally say yes to maxing him out. I would however do a Chandler Parsons type deal of 3 years instead of 4. It would help us to start winning now while still developing our young guys. If we start winning that will make us more attractive to free agents who want to contend.

If halfway through his contract he starts declining in productivity, he resigns for less at the end and becomes a very valuable rotation player down the line.
 
Hack said:
I'm not a mind reader, so I'm not sure what you are saying. I'm just going to assume you meant that Mathews is a top free agent.

He is in a way. But he is in the next tier down imo. I like him, but he's not in the same tier as Butler and Leonard.
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Also, we are only discussing free agent wings. I'm pretty sure that there are other free agents at other positions in the top tier along with butler and leonard
 
If you believe in real plus/minus, we should be targeting Draymond Green or Middleton with our cap room, not Matthews.
 
Hack said:
I'm not a mind reader, so I'm not sure what you are saying. I'm just going to assume you meant that Mathews is a top free agent.

He is in a way. But he is in the next tier down imo. I like him, but he's not in the same tier as Butler and Leonard.
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I was thinking of the other thread that had a list of top wing free agents. I think Leonard, Butler and Wes were on that list. I found this though, it has all the free agents on it:

https://hoopshype.com/free_agency_2015.htm
 
Flc said:
If you believe in real plus/minus, we should be targeting Draymond Green or Middleton with our cap room, not Matthews.
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I'm down for Draymond too. It's a little hard to get people around here to buy into though.

I'd be targeting Butler, Draymond, or Leonard as the top 3 we should go after.


This is the next tier down that we should target if we can't get one if the top 3

Danny Green
Wes Mathews
Kris Middleton
 
y'all are pipe dreaming (and by that I mean, smoking some strong *** hasheesh) if you think we have any shot at Butler or Leonard.

Only in the Hacl school of Armchair GMing or NBA 2K can you believe in that stuff.
 
NAOS said:
y'all are pipe dreaming (and by that I mean, smoking some strong *** hasheesh) if you think we have any shot at Butler or Leonard.

Only in the Hacl school of Armchair GMing or NBA 2K can you believe in that stuff.
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5 first round draft picks and 13 second rounders to offer. Plenty can happen between now and then, like Rose going down and Chicago deciding not to go into LT. The Jazz could land the 3 spot in the lottery. Curry can have a career ending injury.
 
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