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I’m having withdrawals. I really enjoyed this season. It’s the first season I’ve enjoyed since we had the best record in the league a few years ago. Been wanting to lose like this ever since the mass exodus of the previous era.

I enjoyed watching the evolution of the rookie contract players, and I’m throwing in Juzang. I think he’s a nice player to have on a championship level team, even starting if that’s what we need.

My analysis on the young guys are as followed, and what they need to improve.

Collier is a jump shot, and gaining experience away from being allstar level or very close to it.

Flip has those Sabonis traits to go along with quickness and great ball skills for a 7footer. He needs to make quicker reads and improve decision-making on defense.

Brice needs to improve ball security and processing skills. Hes already an elite shooter.

Key needs to improve shot selection, finishing inside, and defense. He’s a very good passer and shocked at how he’s improved his playmaking.

This was a wasted season for Hendricks other than improving his body. I look forward to watching his progression next year.

Kessler is an elite rebounder and rim protector. He has one more season to see if shooting 3’s is a viable option for him in the future. Early prognosis is that would be a no. He needs to improve his ft shooting and physicality on offense setting screens and down low in the paint.

Juzang showed he’s an nba player. Hes that guy on a contending team that won’t hurt his team on defense and is a mover who forces a defense to know where you are at all times. His shot is consistent and leathal and doesn’t need much room to get a good look. Is the quintessential 3-D player. He can probably make minor improvements on defense and passing. I really enjoyed watching what he did this year.

Cody Williams. Processing processing processing…. Ummm the nicest thing I can say about him is he became more aggressive as the season went on. He needs to well, improve everything. Body, shot, making an impact in any way imaginable
 
Thee Idiotic Minivan K said:
I’m having withdrawals. I really enjoyed this season. It’s the first season I’ve enjoyed since we had the best record in the league a few years ago. Been wanting to lose like this ever since the mass exodus of the previous era.

I enjoyed watching the evolution of the rookie contract players, and I’m throwing in Juzang. I think he’s a nice player to have on a championship level team, even starting if that’s what we need.

My analysis on the young guys are as followed, and what they need to improve.

Collier is a jump shot, and gaining experience away from being allstar level or very close to it.

Flip has those Sabonis traits to go along with quickness and great ball skills for a 7footer. He needs to make quicker reads and improve decision-making on defense.

Brice needs to improve ball security and processing skills. Hes already an elite shooter.

Key needs to improve shot selection, finishing inside, and defense. He’s a very good passer and shocked at how he’s improved his playmaking.

This was a wasted season for Hendricks other than improving his body. I look forward to watching his progression next year.

Kessler is an elite rebounder and rim protector. He has one more season to see if shooting 3’s is a viable option for him in the future. Early prognosis is that would be a no. He needs to improve his ft shooting and physicality on offense setting screens and down low in the paint.

Juzang showed he’s an nba player. Hes that guy on a contending team that won’t hurt his team on defense and is a mover who forces a defense to know where you are at all times. His shot is consistent and leathal and doesn’t need much room to get a good look. Is the quintessential 3-D player. He can probably make minor improvements on defense and passing. I really enjoyed watching what he did this year.

Cody Williams. Processing processing processing…. Ummm the nicest thing I can say about him is he became more aggressive as the season went on. He needs to well, improve everything. Body, shot, making an impact in any way imaginable
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You enjoyed a 17 win season? You need many, many, years of therapy.
 
I enjoyed this season too, in its own way. Although I definitely caught less of the games after the all star break (before that I watched almost all of them). It was a different mentality, but in a way it was sort of freeing to just watch the guys play and figure out what they're good at. Honestly, if Cody would have had a promising season too, I would have just called this a fun season, no notes.
 
Rubashov said:
You enjoyed a 17 win season? You need many, many, years of therapy.
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Am I the only realist here? What were you expecting when we traded DM and Gobert and half the team along with them. The jazz screwed up not going all in on the tank in the first two years. The goal of the season wasn’t wins or even compete. It was lose games and and develop the young players. I’m not the one depressed and hating the season because I prepared myself for what the season was all about.

For me watching games was all about catching a glimpse of of the future and what this team might look like and it sure was great to see that a couple of the rookies have real potential.

I’m the one that is well adjusted you are the one sucking your thumb because of only 17 wins. You’re the one that needs therapy to recover. For me the season was entertaining, not in the traditional sense obviously but I was prepared for what was coming. Been prepared ever since DM and Gobert left I’ve been prepared for this.

It’s weird that everyone wants losses but consider this a tough and agonizing year. The agonizing year was the year before the team was blown up when the Jazz played passionless unfeeling unconnected uninspired basketball which culminated in the Jazz getting destroyed by a Dallas team that didn’t have Luka Dončić for half the series. This season by far was far more entertaining than anything that walking dead of a team brought.
 
Flc said:
Yo, Hendricks looks friggin huge. When they said he worked on his body despite the injury I wasn’t expecting him to be well on his way to Malone arms. I’m sure he’ll have some rust, but he might be fun next season.
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If we draft Flagg I have a feeling we're going to have one of the more exhilarating seasons of our time. Hendricks, Flip, Collier, Key, Kessler.. we got so many pieces that have potential to make the big leap.

The dream scenario is all of those guys take a major leap, next season could be a lot of fun.
 
The Fresh Prince said:
If we draft Flagg I have a feeling we're going to have one of the more exhilarating seasons of our time. Hendricks, Flip, Collier, Key, Kessler.. we got so many pieces that have potential to make the big leap.

The dream scenario is all of those guys take a major leap, next season could be a lot of fun.
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Lets not get ahead of ourselves.

WE NEED TO KEEP A ****ING LID ON THINGS!!!!!
 
I mean, I understood that what they were doing was necessary and the right thing for the future. It just wasn't any fun at all to watch. I don't feel like I'm watching the future because I think its really low odds for any given individual on the team that they are still on the team when we are good. When our window opens, bunch of the young guys will get traded for fit pieces. If it doesn't open like this offseason, Markkanen and Sexton won't be here either.

I don't really want to comment more because if you really enjoyed this season, more power to you and I don't want to be a downer. Just for me the intentional losing felt icky and I don't yet feel like I'm watching the guys that will eventually carry my team to the heights. I understand and support what the team is doing, but I didn't enjoy this season even the slightest bit.
 
GunterD said:
I mean, I understood that what they were doing was necessary and the right thing for the future. It just wasn't any fun at all to watch. I don't feel like I'm watching the future because I think its really low odds for any given individual on the team that they are still on the team when we are good. When our window opens, bunch of the young guys will get traded for fit pieces. If it doesn't open like this offseason, Markkanen and Sexton won't be here either.

I don't really want to comment more because if you really enjoyed this season, more power to you and I don't want to be a downer. Just for me the intentional losing felt icky and I don't yet feel like I'm watching the guys that will eventually carry my team to the heights. I understand and support what the team is doing, but I didn't enjoy this season even the slightest bit.
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This.
I wanted losses every night. I got what I wanted. Doesn't mean I enjoy watching crappy jazz basketball though. I wanted losses because I want Cooper Flagg, not because I enjoy losing. I think it's strange to have enjoyed this jazz season.
 
The only things I really enjoyed this season was second part of the season Collier flashes of being the future assist king of the league, and Kessler's some very dominant games here and there. Those two I'm most certain that are going to spend in Utah their second contract as well, if this team is going somewhere.
 
I went back and watched the Collins interview and it was weird asf. He was trying to not get in trouble regarding his injuries or lack thereof and I don't think he wants to be here unless he gets a max extension. If he and his agent test the water and no one wants to pony up I think the Jazz will have a very unhappy camper on their hands if he is forced to opt in.
 
homeytennis said:
I went back and watched the Collins interview and it was weird asf. He was trying to not get in trouble regarding his injuries or lack thereof and I don't think he wants to be here unless he gets a max extension. If he and his agent test the water and no one wants to pony up I think the Jazz will have a very unhappy camper on their hands if he is forced to opt in.
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He will be opting in. There just isn't much cap space or a lot of teams that will use MLE (a big paycut). Opt in and trade, then extension at a lower number with the team that acquirers him would be his best bet.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
He will be opting in. There just isn't much cap space or a lot of teams that will use MLE (a big paycut). Opt in and trade, then extension at a lower number with the team that acquirers him would be his best bet.
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I’d actually be shocked if Ty year don’t trade Collins and Sexton this offseason. Wouldn’t be shocked to see them consolidate them into a single trade for a guy on a big contract and the team wants to get out of it - like Chicago and LaVine last year.

Hopefully the Jazz can get some value for both of them.
 
Regarding Collins: I still like the idea of trading Lauri and doing a renegotiate-and-extend with Collins such that we give him a payday this year and then the salary drops to like $17 million for a few years (assuming his primary gripe is our tanking ****ing with his value; let's make him whole).
 
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