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  1. Quin's Murderface

    Start Dante for Rubio

    LMAO. Dante is the fastest guy on the team. Donovan is a little bit quicker in short spaces and is more coordinated/compact in his movements. Neither guy can explode off one foot with the edge there probably going to Dante who can get up a little bit better. Donovan really can barely elevate at...
  2. Quin's Murderface

    Start Dante for Rubio

    Nope. I'm just saying that I am skeptical of stats that are so convoluted. I'm skeptical of lots of stats that are simple as well, or how they are applied even if I like them. When you are presented with these specific numbers in the tweet I doubt very many people understand how they are...
  3. Quin's Murderface

    Start Dante for Rubio

    Dante's speed and length is such that he has a notable advantage over most NBA players. That's all I was saying. Kyle Korver even recently said that he hasn't seen very many players with the ability to get to the rim like Dante. It's a component of athleticism, but I agree that he isn't a great...
  4. Quin's Murderface

    Start Dante for Rubio

    These stats are completely out of context for me. I started reading what they actually mean and went down a multi-site rabbit hole of convolution. I'm not saying they are or aren't legitimate, but we don't even know the context of what they are trying to say, or what they are counting...
  5. Quin's Murderface

    Start Dante for Rubio

    I've seen similar things posted by Jazz media like David Locke etc. I think most fans just regurgitate those opinions and don't really think for themselves. I remember Andy Larsen calling out a play where Dante had to reset a couple times because all the initial options (curls for Ingles and...
  6. Quin's Murderface

    say NO to EXUM. the biggest bust since darko.

    This is the exact opposite of his skillset. Wing players need to be stronger than Dante, and better shooters/floor spacers. . His skills are PnR, getting into the lane, and an ability to lob/find open players in those situations. His length is only really an asset when he can smother PG's. His...
  7. Quin's Murderface

    Start Dante for Rubio

    I think this is a bit hyperbolic. Quin just doesn't trust Dante for whatever reason and has treated him differently than other guys. I'm sure he likes Dante and wants him to succeed. Maybe he even believes in him in some abstract/future way. But he hasn't shown that confidence for most of his...
  8. Quin's Murderface

    Start Dante for Rubio

    Their season numbers are pretty similar. Rubio has the advantage of playing with better teammates and at his natural position. Exum has the advantage of playing against backups more often. You can make a case for either one of those things being more important, but I'd argue that Exum has been...
  9. Quin's Murderface

    Start Dante for Rubio

    Unfortunately for you the numbers are very similar. Maybe you should reconsider your faulty analysis.
  10. Quin's Murderface

    Start Dante for Rubio

    Yet he doesn't turn the ball over close to the amount that Rubio does. And Rubio doesn't lose minutes for all his stupid TO's. It's a clear double standard. Rubio gets beaten back door like twice a game which is a pretty big defensive lapse imo. I think both players are pretty comparable right...
  11. Quin's Murderface

    Start Dante for Rubio

    I'd argue that Exum's offense is better than Rubio right now. He's more of a threat/puts more pressure on the defense, he doesn't turn it over as much, and he doesn't have to dominate the ball quite as much to be effective. If Rubio is making jumpers then he is the better offensive player, but...
  12. Quin's Murderface

    say NO to EXUM. the biggest bust since darko.

    This is 100% the truth. Dante has been kneecapped by injuries but also by a coach who has rarely let him use his best attributes. The amount of time Dante Exum has stood in a corner "spacing the floor" is one of the biggest blights on Quin Snyder's coaching resume. He's been completely...
  13. Quin's Murderface

    Gordon Hayward hate

    Ingles is basically the prototypical starter on this team. He has so many varied skills, is one of the best knock down shooters in the league, and a good defender. Everything about him screams glue-guy starter. Bringing him off the bench would be a JR Jazz level coaching decision. I'd rather...
  14. Quin's Murderface

    Niang Signs Contract

    If you told me that Jingles and Diaw had a child somehow I might believe that it was Niang.
  15. Quin's Murderface

    Grayson a better dunker than Donovan?

    I think Carter is on par with Lavine in the dunk contest, but he is the best in game dunker I've ever seen by a mile. It's kind of unfair in some ways because the nature of a dunk contest is that newer guys build on older feats. Lavine's are a step up in difficulty in many ways, but Carter has a...
  16. Quin's Murderface

    Dante Exum re-signed

    We should stop talking about flashes when a player has really solid statistical performance. He was flat out performing consistently when he came back from injury. The only flashes were that he wasn't playing a ton of minutes.
  17. Quin's Murderface

    Let’s talk about fours

    Sentiment. People like Favors and he is a good dude. Also, there isn't really great stretch 4 option out there without a trade. PLus he is useful as a backup 5.
  18. Quin's Murderface

    Rudy Gobert wins 2017-18 Defensive Player of the Year

    Hopefully Jazz fans remember that speech and answer to the question the next time Gobert has a couple bad games and they feel the urge to bring out the pitchforks and trade him. He's been a great ambassador for the team and city. His defensive impact is incredible.
  19. Quin's Murderface

    The Case for Letting Exum Walk

    I'm not sure I agree with him being a huge injury risk. He has had 1 knee injury and a freakish shoulder injury. Pulling his hammy a little bit doesn't count. I'd say his "potential" even extends to health. We just don't know if he'll be injury prone. He hasn't had a bunch of ticky tack...
  20. Quin's Murderface

    The Case for Letting Exum Walk

    Yeah I totally agree with the Stretch 4 thing. I was disappointed with Dante's shot last year. I always thought he could be a decent spot up/set shooter at least. Dante playing with the ball in his hands more eliminates some of that as he can create mismatches with his speed in PnR or iso. But...
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