Douchebag K
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apart from all his other shortcomings, he takes Gordon out of the game .. completely. He seems like a nice kid but he has delusions of grandeur
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candrew
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After missing 22 of his last 25 three point attempts I think even Mama Burke is blocking him on Twitter now.
gregbroncs
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So to you a couple of bad nights is? The whole damn season. His shooting % is **** and his defense isn't even that good.
I don't disagree. Burke sucks. He never turned a corner. He's a streaky shooter, and he did add a bit to his game this season. I think the bench role suits him a lot better though.
candrew
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As I said in the game thread yesterday, Burke's lack of offense is having a profoundly negative impact on his defense. In the second quarter he got burned by a player 16 years older than him on a transition play. And at least twice in the second half I saw him guarding no one on rotations. Even QS was screaming at him from the sidelines to pressure the ball (at least once it was fairly audible on the announcer mics).
This is why he needs to be benched. Cotton's second 10 day contract expires after Monday's game against Charlotte. Give the kid a chance for a couple of games to play for his life - although I'm fairly confident Utah is going sign him for the rest of the year next week.
This is why he needs to be benched. Cotton's second 10 day contract expires after Monday's game against Charlotte. Give the kid a chance for a couple of games to play for his life - although I'm fairly confident Utah is going sign him for the rest of the year next week.
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The exorcism must continue
Next year will be a big year for him. I don't expect much, but giving up on his development after 2 years would be a mistake.
Would it be though? How high is his ceiling? A decent backup? It's not like we'll be missing out on an all star. It's worth remembering that even though he is satisfied right now, it is highly doubtful he'll be happy with a true backup role (15-18 mpg). Since this is what's going to happen as Exum develops a bit, I don't really care what happens to Burke. That said, he is on a pretty cheap rookie contract, and he doesn't have much of a trade value. Might as well keep him for the next two years. His value can only go up.
Stifle Tower
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Suckitude can't be cured. Even HE taught us amputation is sometimes the ONLY way ("if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off"). Trey needs to be cut off from the team.
What I see is Hood perhaps starting (if we don't get a starting wing in free agency). Not that he's any better than Alec, but he complements our starters better. We have Hayward as our penetrator and two bigs who play inside. We need two others who can shoot 3's. Look at what happened against Houston. Dante and Rodney had all the 3's they wanted. When they make them, it's game over. Had Utah not had such a huge lead, Houston would have struggled to score 80 pounts. Basically, Utah could have gone scoreless the last period and probably won.
The problem then becomes Trey and Alec paired together as subs. That just isn't going to work. Both like the ball in their hands. Both like to drive to the hoop. Burks can actually be effective doing that; Trey just ends up on the floor.
Kyoto
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I agree with this unless we get Neto to come here, then we would have a potential backup sitting on the bench with a chucker playing ahead of him. Honestly Trey on the bench with no other scorer is the best we can do, but when Alec comes back and Hood goes to the bench we need a guy to pass the ball. So, right now Trey on the bench is... sigh.. okay at best but next year is when its going to be a bad time.
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You won't have to, Orangello ... only Trey shooting 50 percent or close to that, playing a little defense, and passing the ball once in a while will stop it. What do you think the odds of that happening are?
Fair enough. I love some things Exum brings us. Speed, defense, 3 pt shooting. I guess my point is neither has proven they are THE guy of the future. Exum needs that aggression, and confidence to get there.
Trey needs consistency, he cant look great some nights and then blow *** the next game. If neither brings those things neither will be our starting 1 of the future. But i see promising signs in both of them to be that guy.
gregbroncs
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It's not even his poor shooting that really bothers me about Trey. It's that he is a ball stopper and the offense becomes stagnant when he's in, Add pathetic effort and skill on defense and he's become my least favorite player on this team....By far.
Trey Burke has taken 179 shots in the final 6 seconds of the shot clock, 2nd most in the NBA.
Hayward is 8th with 151.
That is the biggest reason Trey's FG% sucks. You can blame it on him stopping the ball, but it's not all his fault. Our offense just isn't that good and when you have as many wings who won't shoot (Sap and Ingles) it can make things hard on the PG.
Hayward is 8th with 151.
That is the biggest reason Trey's FG% sucks. You can blame it on him stopping the ball, but it's not all his fault. Our offense just isn't that good and when you have as many wings who won't shoot (Sap and Ingles) it can make things hard on the PG.
I feel like you already know that this isn't true. Here are his shot clock usage stats:
Secs.
Att.
eFG%
Ast'd
Blk'd
Pts
0-10
34% .454 48% 4% 4.0
11-15
22% .420 36% 6% 2.4
16-20
25% .491 52% 1% 3.2
21+
18% .377 44% 2% 1.8
Crunch
43% .444 49% 2% 4.9
So his highest percentage shots are with 8 seconds remaining. Most shots are taken in the first 10 seconds of the shot clock, and he hits around his season average on those. He does take 18% of his shots with only 3 seconds left, and he doesn't hit many of them. With those shots taken into account, his FG% goes from 36.7 to about 37.8. So no that's not the reason for his **** shooting, Why you keep repeating the same misinformation is beyond me.
How is that misinformation?
The information is correct. Maybe the way I interpret it is wrong, but that is subjective.