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12-year-old with air gun dies in Cleveland police shooting

HighlandHomie said:
I know there's a thread on this, but this deserves it's own thread. Really, really, really horrifying to see these two pigs just drive up, and literally shoot him dead before they even got out of the car. RIP Tamir Rice - know we're fighting for you and Mike Brown and humanity now. These pigs will no longer have any power over us.

https://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2014/11/cleveland_police_officer_shot_1.html
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That's some **** right there. That initial engagement leaves a lot to be desired. I mean, what the ****.
 
This, the walmart video... man I am glad I am not born black in this country.
 
Boy they just executed the poor black chap unfortunate enough to have a toy gun.
 
I saw a two tweets. Don't know if they are true

First one: number of Americans killed in Bengazzi 3, number of Americans killed by Terroists in 2012-12, number humans killed by police in USA in 2012-461.

Second one: number of people killed by police in 2012. Japan 0, UK -1, Germany 6, USA 461.

Scary times.
 
mellow said:
I saw a two tweets. Don't know if they are true

First one: number of Americans killed in Bengazzi 3, number of Americans killed by Terroists in 2012-12, number humans killed by police in USA in 2012-461.

Second one: number of people killed by police in 2012. Japan 0, UK -1, Germany 6, USA 461.

Scary times.
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Did Jesus serve in UK's police force and brought someone back from the dead?
 
mellow said:
I saw a two tweets. Don't know if they are true

First one: number of Americans killed in Bengazzi 3, number of Americans killed by Terroists in 2012-12, number humans killed by police in USA in 2012-461.

Second one: number of people killed by police in 2012. Japan 0, UK -1, Germany 6, USA 461.

Scary times.
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Pommy cops didn't have sidearms in 2012 only batons and pepper spray and tazers
https://m.bbc.com/news/magazine-19641398
 
this is slightly older news but I haven't seen it posted yet...

the officer who shot Tamir Rice within 2 seconds of exiting his police car has some issues in his background that the Cleveland PD did not make an effort to discover before they hired him...

CLEVELAND, Ohio — Cleveland officials drove to Independence to gather information about hiring the officer who eventually shot Tamir Rice, but never looked at his personnel file.

Cleveland police spokesman Sgt. Ali Pillow said Wednesday officers asked Independence police about Timothy Loehmann before hiring him in March, but police there referred them to the human resources department.

Pillow said the Independence human resource department told them Loehmann had no disciplinary actions taken against him. Loehmann officially resigned from Independence but officials there had been prepared to release him from duty.

The personnel file contained reports by a top Independence police official who questioned Loehmann's ability to handle the duties of a police officer after an emotional breakdown during firearms training and other incidents that caused concern for his superiors.

They eventually decided they wanted to release Loehmann from the department but allowed him to resign.

Loehmann fatally shot the 12-year-old boy on Nov. 22 less than two seconds after he responded to a complaint about Tamir waving a gun that turned out to be fake.

Cleveland police on Wednesday amended their written policy on reviewing public personnel files for someone trying to get hired, Pillow said. They previously had no policies about viewing personnel files.
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https://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2014/12/cleveland_police_never_reviewe.html
 
12 year old boy with an airsoft gun shot by police(video)

Video released by Cleveland police on Wednesday shows that officers shot a 12-year-old boy in a park on Saturday “one-and-a-half to two seconds” after police drove into the park and confronted the child, deputy chief Edward Tomba said....
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/nov/26/tamir-rice-video-shows-boy-shot-police-cleveland

FAIR WARNING-The video is frightening/disturbing especially because you know it is a 12 yr old kid.
 
haven't watched this video - does it have sound?

Because apparently the officers had been shouting commands before they exited the vehicle and he did not comply - but because the official video does not have audio, that was not apparent.

Many witnesses corroborate hearing the audible commands from the police.

Not an excuse though - at least not a good enough excuse, particularly knowing the history of the officer who pulled the trigger.
 
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The article says that they did not use the megaphone. Rice may not have heard them until they were close, and by that point he had 2 seconds to comply.
 
moevillini said:
haven't watched this video - does it have sound?

Because apparently the officers had been shouting commands before they exited the vehicle and he did not comply - but because the official video does not have audio, that was not apparent.

Many witnesses corroborate hearing the audible commands from the police.

Not an excuse though - at least not a good enough excuse, particularly knowing the history of the officer who pulled the trigger.
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You should probably watch the video. The cops pulled up so fast and they fired so quickly. I'm a grown man and I would have been so startled I doubt that I would have reacted well.
 
Terrible. They just plain killed him without even giving him a chance to put it away or lift his hands up. That trigger happy idiot who shot him should never be given gun or allowed to work in police.
 
Kudos to the Cleveland PD chief for saying the Browns don't owe anyone an apology, and that the union doesn't speak for all police.
 
I will try to merge this with the other thread but I'm using tapatalk at the moment and can't.


(threads merged, thanks to my son who let me use his laptop!)
 
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AKMVP said:
Terrible. They just plain killed him without even giving him a chance to put it away or lift his hands up. That trigger happy idiot who shot him should never be given gun or allowed to work in police.
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see post #90 above - it details some of the background of the officer who shot Tamir Rice
 
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