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People are seriously complaining about the burn that Kanter got? Geez. I mean you can maybe complain that he wasn't given the biggest offensive role on the team (a foolish complaint IMO), or that he wasn't played enough with Favors (a fair complaint IMO) but high 20s is quite good. C'mon guys. Especially seeing as how big of a sieve Kanter was on defense (his remark to Jefferson pisses me off quite a bit btw-- can't wait to have a new coach to set him straight).

Starting Jefferson? Not a huge deal. Jefferson playing more minutes than Burks for a good chunk of the season? Fair complaint.
 
VINYLONE said:
This is exactly right. Anyone that is arguing the opposite has a specious position and more than likely a trolling position.
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Kanter gets more touches if he comes off the bench. Same with Burks. Think about how many touches Burks would have gotten if he started on the floor with Burke and Hayward and Kanter and Favors? You will guaranteed be stunting the development of at least one player, offensively. Burks would have had Jefferson's role.
 
I was very very okay with Jefferson starting. I liked Marvin playing stretch-4 (long overdue) but I didn't like Favors and Kanter not playing with each other. Rotation-wise, Ty had a decent season. No coach nails it down to a fan's liking (go to SpursTalk, or literally any other forum if you don't believe me).

Like GVC said, Corbin's problem was creating a defensive identity for this team. If we were basing his rep on rotation minutes, I would re-hire Corbin. Based on player development? Eh, 50/50. Based on defense? Seeing as we don't have any offensive hubs on this team, we have to build a defensive culture-- defense is something I would prioritize with this team. Consequently, I would never extend Corbin,. I'd spend time looking for a coach that could really set up a solid NBA defense, and get players to buy in.
 
GVC said:
********. Bringing two of the young guys off the bench allowed all 5 young players to get lots of shots and overall (on-ball) offensive responsibility (been over this before; this is the first time in decades that a team had 5 players under the age of 24 who all averaged 10+ field goal attempts per game). That, and lineups matter.

I agree that Burks should have played more minutes this year, and Kanter should have played more minutes last year. Other than that, Corbin did a pretty decent job with lineups and playing time this season. His real failure was getting the team to play adequate defense.
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Both Marvin and RJ got more minutes per game than Kanter and Burks, and I'm pretty sure there were games when one or the other led the team in minutes played for a particular game -- that should never have happened. It prevented other guys on the bench from getting minutes and I don't mean just Kanter and Burks. That was seriously stupid considering that we're supposed to be building for the future.
 
Eenie-Meenie said:
Both Marvin and RJ got more minutes per game than Kanter and Burks, and I'm pretty sure there were games when one or the other led the team in minutes played for a particular game -- that should never have happened. It prevented other guys on the bench from getting minutes and I don't mean just Kanter and Burks. That was seriously stupid considering that we're supposed to be building for the future.
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Agree. Could have shifted Marvin to SF and opened up time for Gobert (i.e. Favors plays more time at PF). Could have given some mins to Clark; why was he even signed after his summer league performance. Did Corbin like the way he could hold pom-poms?

RJ could have averaged 30 pts/per and it wouldn't have mattered. Playing RJ benefited no one EXCEPT RJ. Not going to be here next season = not in the long-term interest of Utah = minimal playing time.

I do place some of the blame on Lindsey. He could have convinced Greg to release RJ at the deadline. RJ either is claimed by another team and that team pays his 2nd-half salary, or he is claimed on waivers and they pay the minimum. I know the Jazz hate to eat salaries (refer back to Raja), but it would have forced Corbin to play the core-5 together before the last 5 games of the year. What did they have in total, something like 213 minutes?
 
Eenie-Meenie said:
Per game ... I didn't look up that stats. But it seemed to me that they were getting more minutes. When Marvin was healthy he was getting the most minutes of the four, for sure.
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You should have looked them up then.

Per Game Avg:
Burks 28.2 MPG
Jefferson 27 MPG
Kanter 26.7 MPG
Marvin 25.4 MPG

So you can see Burks got the most minutes of the 4 and Kanter was only .3 MPG less than Jefferson and more than Marvin.
 
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