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Don't have to worry about Cleveland and Detroit - they'll make a push for the playoffs.


That leaves MIL, PHIL and ORL.

I think Milwaukee is more likely to turn around than Cleveland tbh. Cleveland is healthy, but Bennett and Bynum are completely useless. They don't start Varejao with Thompson together as that leaves them short on inside scoring. Bynum does nothing defensively and their backcourt is highly dysfunctional with SF being a void spot where they play random guys. Sorry Cleveland but you'll be the most ridiculed franchise if you need a 3rd #1...
Tough stuff.
With Philly and Orlando I expect them to enter the trade market sooner than later. When they find a taker for their slightly overaged talent given what they wanna do who gives them an asset back they'll take it.
I'm really puzzled what Philly wants to do long term. Their 3 veterans are only 25/26 years old, wouldn't necessarily be a problem to be put around a young 19 year old star rook. But if you get other future valuable assets for them you pull the trigger obvi...
 
Sacramento will be the only competition in the West. The East has so many lousy teams it's hard to say who will tank their way out of that mess. But both New York and Brooklyn have too many good players to finish bottom five, plus neither will get their first round pick so there's no incentive to tank. There's still Milwaukee, Cleveland, Philadelphia, Orlando, Detroit...

I agree. I would try to see if Cleveland wants to make a trade with the Jazz. They are tired of being in the lottery so they might go for it. Same with sacramento but they have new owners who seem too smart but maybe a trade featuring Favors or Kanter or Hayward might entice them into trading their pick. Jazz cannot afford to pay all three of these players so they would do best to trade one and get another asset cheap. Imagine if the Jazz pick Wiggins/Parker with their own pick and then had a chance at Embiid or Exum with the pick from Kings. The way the GS tankers are playing maybe that pick is lottery too.

Jazz draft Embiid and either Wiggins or Parker. If Embiid isn't available then you draft Exum or Smart.

With the GS pick you take Rodney Hood/James Young/one of the Harrison twins or BPA. This pick will be based upon who they got in 1st round. Ok I am done dreaming.. it was fun while it lasted.
 
Just a note. For all those critics who said I was stupid to think that GS wouldn't make the playoffs. Just look at the standings . They are ranked 12 in the West. Now I know it is early but my point was that GS was/is not a sure thing due to the West being competitive and the history of injuries that key players have, and their lack of depth. Thanks to OKC and Westbrook for beating them last night.

I would laugh my *** off if they missed the playoffs and then won the number one pick.
 
Just a note. For all those critics who said I was stupid to think that GS wouldn't make the playoffs. Just look at the standings . They are ranked 12 in the West. Now I know it is early but my point was that GS was/is not a sure thing due to the West being competitive and the history of injuries that key players have, and their lack of depth. Thanks to OKC and Westbrook for beating them last night.

I would laugh my *** off if they missed the playoffs and then won the number one pick.
I always thought golden state was just an injury or two away from the lotto. Glad we got the pick. Now if it turns out to be a top three pick, well that would make Lindsay look like a super genius. And we would be set for a decade. Two superstars in one draft! That would be the only scenario in which I would be ok with someone bumping the jazz pick down in the lotto standings.
 
Just a note. For all those critics who said I was stupid to think that GS wouldn't make the playoffs. Just look at the standings . They are ranked 12 in the West. Now I know it is early but my point was that GS was/is not a sure thing due to the West being competitive and the history of injuries that key players have, and their lack of depth. Thanks to OKC and Westbrook for beating them last night.

I would laugh my *** off if they missed the playoffs and then won the number one pick.

I think everyone said that they may end up having a disappointing season. Everyone (with a brain) just said: They won't suck because they're bad, they could though because they're going full Derrick Rose. And right now they're losing close games while being incomplete. There's statistics gurus who found out that Steph Curry's crunchtime and 4th quarter efficiency is bad and they explain it with his game that doesn't translate in the fourth quarter because that's when some teams get their **** together on the defensive end in the regular season.
 
Just a note. For all those critics who said I was stupid to think that GS wouldn't make the playoffs. Just look at the standings . They are ranked 12 in the West. Now I know it is early but my point was that GS was/is not a sure thing due to the West being competitive and the history of injuries that key players have, and their lack of depth. Thanks to OKC and Westbrook for beating them last night.

I would laugh my *** off if they missed the playoffs and then won the number one pick.

The good thing about them struggling early is that 7 teams have already gotten off to nice starts. If they compete for a 6-8 spot in the West, that pick will likely be in the 20-23 range. Could very well end up with the 8th seed in the WC having a better record than the 3-8 seeds in the EC. SO a wide spread: GS misses the playoffs and the Jazz get perhaps the 14th pick. GS barely makes the playoffs and that pick slides all the way to #21.
 
As I've said, tank is tenuous. Especially now that we'll have Burke and presumably be healthy. We suck, but we don't suck nearly as bad as everyone thinks and will win some games over the course of the season, unfortunately. All in the bounce of the ping-pong balls.
 
As I've said, tank is tenuous. Especially now that we'll have Burke and presumably be healthy. We suck, but we don't suck nearly as bad as everyone thinks and will win some games over the course of the season, unfortunately. All in the bounce of the ping-pong balls.
I still fear we end up around 5th, I see Sacramento finishing below us in the West. And there are 3-5 EC teams that are truly terrible and could easily start tanking badly once trades are made.
 
I'm sure we'll be a bottom 5 team, but that won't satisfy me anymore .. I really want the worst record.
 
The two against sactown could be the turning point.

If we get 2 wins it could fire us up.

A pair of losses and we lose confidence.
 
I wonder if the Jazz will trade out Marvin Williams at the deadline, or if they'll let him expire. He could be a guy that would factor in for a playoff team. Decent defense and hits some open shots.
 
I wonder if the Jazz will trade out Marvin Williams at the deadline, or if they'll let him expire. He could be a guy that would factor in for a playoff team. Decent defense and hits some open shots.

I'm 99% confident we trade him before the deadline.
 
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