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17 years in prison for an idiot who shot drunk woman.

DutchJazzer said:
ooh wow where have you been all my live.,. i jsut threw away all beds tables and chairs in my home.
if only i knew wearing shoes 24/7 was a solution.

in all seriousness accidents happen from sille stubbed to to losing limbs. to death. we dont go around banning all those inanimate object
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I think that stubbed toes are not as bad as getting shot
 
LogGrad98 said:
That is possible, but it doesn't mean that we do not have enough evidence to say that making schools "no-gun" zones hasn't failed to stop school shootings in and of itself. Maybe we need to try the reverse and see.

Then again, that is the case on military bases, where nearly everyone is armed, and they still have mass shootings.

Maybe it means it does not matter and that bad people will find a way to do bad things no matter how hard we try to stop them. Hell, supposedly God walked and talked with Cain and Abel and look how that turned out.
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Only the MP carries weapon inside US base. Very high police state no regulars packing the heat and no violence. This is proof we need to show no guns in USA makes you safe.
 
[size/HUGE] boobs [/size];899944 said:
I bet 200 US dollars you hate lights in the street night as well. Fences window bars cameras
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I for one prefer the milky way to street lamps. I Hate light pollution and I hate the fact that my city is responsible for so much of it. Buy a ****ing $3 flashlight, fix your headlamps, or wait til morning.
 
DutchJazzer said:
jep all the time. as you might well know should mean enough time to effectively counter :P
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I think it would depend on what you have to counter with and what the situation was.

If I was aiming a long range rifle at you from fifty meters away and you were unarmed then I a split second would not give you enough time to counter.
 
[size/HUGE] boobs [/size];899947 said:
Only the MP carries weapon inside US base. Very high police state no regulars packing the heat and no violence. This is proof we need to show no guns in USA makes you safe.
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What? google Fort Hood for starters.
 
heyhey said:
I already pointed out in another thread the increase in the homicide rate and overall violent crime in the UK since the handgun ban.
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Well, according to the article you were wrong. You may have had data from first years after ban. Now it is different story.

https://world.time.com/2012/12/17/when-massacres-force-change-lessons-from-the-u-k-and-australia/

Between 1996 and ’98, some 700,000 guns were retrieved by the government and destroyed. The results have been tangible: A widely cited 2010 study in the American Journal of Law & Economics showed that gun-related homicides in Australia dropped 59% between 1995 and 2006. The firearm-suicide rate dropped 65%. There has been no mass shooting in Australia since the Port Arthur attack.

Despite a surge in gun-related offenses in the early 2000s, the past seven years in the U.K. have seen successive drops in gun crimes — a consequence, some argue, of the country’s tougher laws on gun ownership
 
heyhey said:
What? google Fort Hood for starters.
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Okay so one US base in one million had one incidence one time. Still way more safer. Tell me you feel more safe in Harlem or inside Hill Airforce Base?

We need to make America safe like Hill Airforce Base. First mission is to declare war on Detroit and Chicago. We invade and kill terrorist. Remove threat of weapon and establish strong police state.
 
AKMVP said:
Well, according to the article you were wrong. You may have had data from first years after ban. Now it is different story.

https://world.time.com/2012/12/17/when-massacres-force-change-lessons-from-the-u-k-and-australia/

Between 1996 and ’98, some 700,000 guns were retrieved by the government and destroyed. The results have been tangible: A widely cited 2010 study in the American Journal of Law & Economics showed that gun-related homicides in Australia dropped 59% between 1995 and 2006. The firearm-suicide rate dropped 65%. There has been no mass shooting in Australia since the Port Arthur attack.

Despite a surge in gun-related offenses in the early 2000s, the past seven years in the U.K. have seen successive drops in gun crimes — a consequence, some argue, of the country’s tougher laws on gun ownership
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You are missing a few key concepts but I will address just one:

If you remove forks from your kitchen, fork related eating will naturally go down, but that doesn't mean eating has gone down.
 
PearlWatson said:
You are missing a few key concepts but I will address just one:

If you remove forks from your kitchen, fork related eating will naturally go down, but that doesn't mean eating has gone down.
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Are you trying to say that knife, baseball bat and other non shooting tool related crimes increased in UK and Australia and their general crime/homicide rate remained the same despite strict gun laws? If so you are wrong.
 
fishonjazz said:
I think it would depend on what you have to counter with and what the situation was.

If I was aiming a long range rifle at you from fifty meters away and you were unarmed then I a split second would not give you enough time to counter.
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well the rifle was an inch from my nose :D
 
AKMVP said:
The firearm-suicide rate dropped 65%.
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derp derp how about the overall suicide rate.

cus seriously if i wanna commit suicide and i dont have a gun. i wont go like dfrp i dont have a gun. so **** it i'll live on.
i will hang myself, jump in front of a train or jump of a building. or heck if you take all that away i starve myself to death.

so mentioning gun suicide rate is retarded
 
AKMVP said:
Are you trying to say that knife, baseball bat and other non shooting tool related crimes increased in UK and Australia and their general crime/homicide rate remained the same despite strict gun laws? If so you are wrong.
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I'm wrong. Apparently fork-related eating increases if you remove forks from your kitchen. Who knew?

The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year[2009] - a rise of 89 per cent.

Read more: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...e-Gun-crime-goes-89-decade.html#ixzz3CNt5DUke
 
PearlWatson said:
I'm wrong. Apparently fork-related eating increases if you remove forks from your kitchen. Who knew?

The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year[2009] - a rise of 89 per cent.

Read more: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...e-Gun-crime-goes-89-decade.html#ixzz3CNt5DUke
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Despite a surge in gun-related offenses in the early 2000s, the past seven years in the U.K. have seen successive drops in gun crimes — a consequence, some argue, of the country’s tougher laws on gun ownership.

So which article is lying???
 
Here is another chart from this article - https://theconversation.com/hard-evidence-does-gun-control-work-18374

For four years after 1998 these other trends overwhelmed the impact of the handgun ban but a series of other legislative changes and a steep learning curve by the police in proactive firearms control now reveal significant year on year reductions in gun crime in England and Wales. Handgun crime is now only half what it was a decade ago.

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And lets look at USA gun related crimes and compare them to other countries.

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Yup, you guys need more guns for sure.
 
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