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green said:
Tyreke Evans, Derrick Rose, John Wall. Those are all above average point guards and Utah would be very good with any of them. Calipari recruits pg's that are successful in the NBA. Knight will be a good pg. The Jazz just have to decide if there is someone better at the #3 spot.
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Knight is a lot different than any of those 3 PG's you named though. Wall,Evans,Rose where all atheltic freaks who relied on their size and athletic ability score. Knight is more a quick footed guard, much like Harris (plus shooting). I think he has the potential to be better than Harris because of the shooting. Also Harris was pretty good before injuries and The Nets really stalled out his development
 
Basically I think he is Harris, but a young Harris who we can mold into more of a PG, and someone who can shoot. Harris is basically a finished project who we can't really change that much, but with Knight we have the potential to continue our tradition of developing PG's.
 
green said:
Tyreke Evans, Derrick Rose, John Wall. Those are all above average point guards and Utah would be very good with any of them. Calipari recruits pg's that are successful in the NBA. Knight will be a good pg. The Jazz just have to decide if there is someone better at the #3 spot.
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Evans is not a good point guard. He is a two guard. Udrih ran the point most of the time and they are of course seriously looking at Knight or Walker.
 
Dwill_PwnasaurasRex said:
Knight is a lot different than any of those 3 PG's you named though. Wall,Evans,Rose where all atheltic freaks who relied on their size and athletic ability score. Knight is more a quick footed guard, much like Harris (plus shooting). I think he has the potential to be better than Harris because of the shooting. Also Harris was pretty good before injuries and The Nets really stalled out his development
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I agree. My point was that Knight will be an above average pg. He is worthy of a top 5 pick. The Jazz just have to decide if Knight is worthy of their pick.
 
jimmyjazz said:
Didn't Harris have his best year with the Nets, and better numbers all around with NJ than with Dallas? Or was it all the losing with him at point?
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Yeah, you are right. But yeah, I think he would have developed better with the Mavs and a winning organization rather than being stuck on a crap team.
 
NCJazz said:
Evans is not a good point guard. He is a two guard. Udrih ran the point most of the time and they are of course seriously looking at Knight or Walker.
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Wow, completely missing the point. Evans is a very good NBA player. Calipari does a great job finding guys that can play in the NBA. Odds are, Knight will also be a very good NBA player.
 
Ok, it's all speculation based on who these guys have played up to this point. It's gambling. But I'm not sure Knight is that much better than Nolan Smith - if at all. And Smith can be had in the late first round.

I'm not advocating even getting Smith. I'm making the point that the PG position is one you can fill much more easily than you can a talented big.
 
BENTLEY said:
Ok, it's all speculation based on who these guys have played up to this point. It's gambling. But I'm not sure Knight is that much better than Nolan Smith - if at all. And Smith can be had in the late first round.

I'm not advocating even getting Smith. I'm making the point that the PG position is one you can fill much more easily than you can a talented big.
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Knight is 3-4 years younger than Nolan. So a lot more time to get better.
 
BENTLEY said:
Ok, it's all speculation based on who these guys have played up to this point. It's gambling. But I'm not sure Knight is that much better than Nolan Smith - if at all. And Smith can be had in the late first round.

I'm not advocating even getting Smith. I'm making the point that the PG position is one you can fill much more easily than you can a talented big.
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You are aware Nolan Smith is a senior, and was on a stacked Duke team (not that Kentucky was half bad either). Where as Knight is a Freshman (who I think skipped a grade somewhere in his life because he only turns 19 in December). Chances are Knight is going to do some major improving in the 5 year age difference there is between him and Smith.
 
green said:
Wow, completely missing the point. Evans is a very good NBA player. Calipari does a great job finding guys that can play in the NBA. Odds are, Knight will also be a very good NBA player.
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Right, but not a good PG. Risky drafting a guy based on his college coach, but I would only be a little disappointed if we drafted him at 3. Some UK guys of course come out when they shouldn't. See Daniel Orton. :)
 
Another thing on Knight, calling him young is a semi understatement. He's actually barely 18 (isn't there a periodical for that ?) and actually younger than Austin Rivers and other 2012 kids. Considering he was 17 when he took the reigns at Kentucky, I'd be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for the early season issues. Coach Cal has a history, the kid is ultra smart, has a high Bball IQ and gym rat. We could do MUCH worse, IMO.
 
margodydek said:
And the freshmen played primarily against kids a year or two older who weren't good enough to get drafted the prior year, so what's the difference?
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2-3 years difference. Plus they are playing in actual games that matter towards a championship, not an All-Star game individual players use to boost their hype.
 
Ok, but again people are basing a lot of their love for Knight on his youth. Which to me is idealizing and fantasy. The same youth argument can be used in regards to a big. Kanter is a big who has an impressive resume - which many discount because he wasn't playing against NBA competition. But the same applies to a guard.

Sam Bowie arguments aside, bigs are a premium. You don't want to pass on a Michael Jordan but do people really see the next MJ in Knight? I don't. Not now, not in 5 years.
 
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