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cowhide said:
Well if Jimmer keeps playing like he did today then he will not be available at 12-14 with the Jazz pick. I thought today he looked like he could be a PG in the NBA instead of an undersized SG. I still have a problem with his shot selection sometimes but that can easily be coached away once he realizes he doesn't have to score the majority of his team's points.

I couldn't believe this was the same BYU team that I watched against SDSU and Wofford. If the rest of the team plays this well then perhaps BYU can win a few more games. Florida vs BYU is going to be a great game.
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I think his defense and perceived lack of athleticism will keep him from being drafted any higher than late lottery.

The shot selection should be pretty moot, as I would think he would know the NBA has much higher caliber players than his teammates at BYU.

Mark Price is an interesting comparison. I've seen some comparisons to Chauncey Billups. I also would make a comparison to Bobby Jackson. Not quite as athletic or thin, however.
 
Cowhide, I totally agree with you. His poor shot selection came later in the game with about 6-7 minutes to go and they were up by 15 so he could take those shots, I am not sure he would take those kind of shots if it were a closer game. I am actually very impressed by the way he converts in the paint and by the free throw line when he gets fouled. Already has NBA range so no need to worry about that when he plays he hits NBA threes and then some! I could easily see BYU making the Elite Eight and even the Final Four which would help Jimmer Fredette's stock tremendously and would definitely solidify himeself of a top 10 pick and possibly a top 6-7 pick.
 
A few notes from several games--

Farihed (sp?) had no offensive game. His body looks like we hope Jeremy Evans will become. Thin bone structure and ripped.

I was tooting Brandon Knight's horn earlier and he had a good game today. Despite being 6'4" or 6'3" he lacks the athletic ability to adjust around the hoop or even blow by people. Defensively he gets by on his good fundamentals. In other words I don't think he has what it takes to be a top tier PG in the NBA ever. He could still be a good PG. But his game will always be finesse and smarts based. I also think he is only going to be at best average on D.

Terrence Jones on Kentucky has some rough edges but he makes a lot of big plays and does so many things so easily. I now think he is going to make a good pro somewhere.
 
Qman said:
A few notes from several games--

Farihed (sp?) had no offensive game. His body looks like we hope Jeremy Evans will become. Thin bone structure and ripped.

I was tooting Brandon Knight's horn earlier and he had a good game today. Despite being 6'4" or 6'3" he lacks the athletic ability to adjust around the hoop or even blow by people. Defensively he gets by on his good fundamentals. In other words I don't think he has what it takes to be a top tier PG in the NBA ever. He could still be a good PG. But his game will always be finesse and smarts based. I also think he is only going to be at best average on D.

Terrence Jones on Kentucky has some rough edges but he makes a lot of big plays and does so many things so easily. I now think he is going to make a good pro somewhere.
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Evans will never become as strong as Farihed is, not even close to the same size frame.
 
The jazz would be out of their damn mind taking the Jimmer wit the nets pick. At 13 ok,but I will be pissed if the do not land of the talented sf or even Alec burks in favor of Jimmer.
 
Before Jimmer I would want any of the following:

Irving, Williams, Barnes, Kanter, Vesely, and maybe more but at least those. That's 5 guys. One of them has to fall to 6. If not, you might need to decide between Terrence Jones, or Perry Jones, or Jonas V., or Donatas, or Jimmer. But I really think Jimmer will still be there for their second lottery pick so why pass on one of these guys at the first pick?
 
There is generally a consensus among mock drafts that the top five players are:
Irving, D. Williams, Barnes, Kanter and Sullinger.

To me (at the moment), Irving and Williams look like the best talent.
Kanter, Barnes, and Sullinger all look like they'll be solid if not spectacular pros.
Then T. Jones, Vesely, and maybe P. Jones all look like they're worth the risk.

At this point, the odds are strongly against the Jazz's pick falling out of the Top 7, so at least two of these players will be available to pick from.
 
Again, Jimmer is great, but how will he play on a team where he doesnt dominate the ball? Give me Smith. Scores at the same rate, better defense, more assists, less turnovers, AND all of this in a tougher league.
 
I love Smith. But here's an argument for Fredette over Smith. He isn't opposed to playing in Utah. The announcers on tv tonight said that Fredette's favorite player was John Stockton. This is kinda rare and may mean Fredette's long term value to the franchise would be greater than someone else. I mean, no need to trade him before his contract's up to make sure you get something for him, ala Deron.

The question is - will Fredette have any value in this league anyway? But this is being debated in at least a couple other threads already.

I'm just thinking that even if you could definitely say Smith is a little better than Fredette, you might still want to draft Fredette given Fredette's personality, his favorite player being a guy who doesn't chase money but stays loyal to the team that drafted him, and if I were selling tickets/merch I know Fredette would sell a lot in Utah.

But once again, I love Nolan Smith and I'm not saying one is definitely better than the other. They're both studs.
 
Look, we dont draft Jimmer. He turns out be to be a good player, in 4 years his initial contract is up, then he resigns with us, right? I mean, Utah is the land of the mormons, its where all his friends are, its his favorite basketball team.
 
Dwill_PwnasaurasRex said:
Look, we dont draft Jimmer. He turns out be to be a good player, in 4 years his initial contract is up, then he resigns with us, right? I mean, Utah is the land of the mormons, its where all his friends are, its his favorite basketball team.
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Wrong, he grew up in New York. His favorite team growing up was the Knicks.
 
hey guys, I'm not too sure about this Jammer Corvette, dude.

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Bentley- interesting point. I hadn't thought about that. My only retort or hope is that the upcoming lockout fixes that problem ala the NFL. If it doesn't then maybe you do lean towards a Jimmer over Nolan so you can keep him around. Huh.
 
I think we need to draft a basketball player.
 
All of this discussion is cute, but can we get back to the topic of this thread - our lord, savior, and lost Jo Bro - Jimmer Christ?

He won't be able to guard Eric Snow right now. Plz darft.
 
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