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NCJazz said:
Kind of worries me a little for the nba. He is not a great shooter nor is he a great athlete. Hmm.....
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I didn't say he isn't athletic. He is athletic. He is crafty though. Derozan only relies on his athleticism. Burks is smart. while having athleticism.
And yes his 3 point shot needs work but he can hit the mid range shot very well. so its not like he is Ronnie Brewer. Brandon Roy had similar problems coming out of college. Hayward had those same things (Bad shooter his 2nd year and not athletic).
Mid range shot is more important than the 3 point shot.
 
Don't act like Roy had a bad outside shot coming out of college....he shot 40% from 3 his senior year on roughly the same amount of attempts that Burks had this year, Burks just shot 29%. Obviously Burks can develop his outside shot, but what worries me is that he gets the majority of his points off of the dribble. Unless if our offense is going to change, Burks will struggle hear for the main reason that he won't be able to dominate the ball like he does in college. If the Jazz think that he can develop his ability to make a set shot, then go for it, but it's a risky move when you will most likely already have a proven shooter like Jordan Hamilton on the board.
 
Hantlers said:
Don't act like Roy had a bad outside shot coming out of college....he shot 40% from 3 his senior year on roughly the same amount of attempts that Burks had this year, Burks just shot 29%. Obviously Burks can develop his outside shot, but what worries me is that he gets the majority of his points off of the dribble. Unless if our offense is going to change, Burks will struggle hear for the main reason that he won't be able to dominate the ball like he does in college. If the Jazz think that he can develop his ability to make a set shot, then go for it, but it's a risky move when you will most likely already have a proven shooter like Jordan Hamilton on the board.
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I honestly didn't see him play much. But after reading about him and looking at his stats. He seems like a better player than Burks. I will have to agree with you. Hamilton looks like a much better player. How is his defense?
 
Finally some people are starting to like Jordan Hamilton.

2011 NBA Draft – Jordan Hamilton Strengths

* Is considered a pure shooter with NBA range
* Quick release and able to catch and shoot.
* Perfect size to play the wing in the NBA.
* Has shown the ability to post-up smaller players.
* Is explosive in the open court.

2011 NBA Draft – Jordan Hamilton Weaknesses

* Free throw shooting
* Shot selection can be lacking at times.
* Needs to work on his aggressiveness in driving to the basket.
* Court vision.


I can't believe he is supposed to go mid first round. I'd be thrilled if we got him at 12. I know its a VERY big stretch but he reminds me of Danny Granger or Kevin Durant. A bigger wing that can finish well, is athletic and long and has deep range. If he is anything close to Granger, why wouldn't you take that with the 12th freakin pick
 
I'd fully support Hamilton at 12. His ability to shoot the ball and his college experience make him a much better fit than most guys in this lottery. If we stay where we are, 6 and 12, and get Biyombo and Hamilton, then I'd be just fine with that. But, I'd still expect KOC to make a move to help us on the wings (EVEN IF he brings AK back... ahem, trade CJ).
 
Favors Flave said:
Finally some people are starting to like Jordan Hamilton.

2011 NBA Draft – Jordan Hamilton Strengths

* Is considered a pure shooter with NBA range
* Quick release and able to catch and shoot.
* Perfect size to play the wing in the NBA.
* Has shown the ability to post-up smaller players.
* Is explosive in the open court.

2011 NBA Draft – Jordan Hamilton Weaknesses

* Free throw shooting
* Shot selection can be lacking at times.
* Needs to work on his aggressiveness in driving to the basket.
* Court vision.


I can't believe he is supposed to go mid first round. I'd be thrilled if we got him at 12. I know its a VERY big stretch but he reminds me of Danny Granger or Kevin Durant. A bigger wing that can finish well, is athletic and long and has deep range. If he is anything close to Granger, why wouldn't you take that with the 12th freakin pick
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Bad defense and mental fragility will do that to your draft stock, even in a **** year.
 
Hamilton is not a bad selection at 12.

I think it will be difficult to determine who's BPA in the hodgepodge of players that will be available at 12. I think who the Jazz pick with their first selection will be a big factor into who gets selected at 12.
 
The times I have seen Hamilton I have noticed he is a natural scorer/shooter. Doesn't create for himself except in the post against smaller players. Not a very good ball-handler or passer. Seem to be a defender who lacked the lateral quickness to put pressure on the other team. He also has the CJ Miles syndrome of "if I hit my 2 first shots I am going to be hot and play with energy". I would take Burks, Jimmer or Leonard over Hamilton. Heck I would take Nolan Smith over Hamilton. I don't see him as a player who making winning basketball plays.
 
Qman said:
The times I have seen Hamilton I have noticed he is a natural scorer/shooter. Doesn't create for himself except in the post against smaller players. Not a very good ball-handler or passer. Seem to be a defender who lacked the lateral quickness to put pressure on the other team. He also has the CJ Miles syndrome of "if I hit my 2 first shots I am going to be hot and play with energy". I would take Burks, Jimmer or Leonard over Hamilton. Heck I would take Nolan Smith over Hamilton. I don't see him as a player who making winning basketball plays.
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Agreed. Burks over Hamilton, and all those players, by a rather good margin.
 
I think hamilton should be in play at 12. I guess it al depends on how work outs go. I think there will be some players rise considering how weak this draft is. For instance i think t jones moves into top 7 after workouts and i think klay thompson is top 15 after work outs. I am on board with biyambo after reading alot more recent articles about him, but only if he can play center. If no biyambo, hopefully knight is around. At 12 there really are quite a few prospects to choose from. I think if our scouts do a good job, the 12 th pick could be good. I dont know about you guys but to me it seems this draft is just very weak at the top, but picks 7 thru 18 are just as good as any other year.
 
I never mentioned Jordan Hamilton because I thought he was returning to Texas, but now it looks like he is leaning towards entering the draft. I love this guys as a player, reminds me of Richard Hamilton. Jordan Hamilton is ready for the Jazz's system anyway look at this article I found:

"Last year Texas Longhorns head coach Rick Barnes decided it was time to scrap his one-dimensional, pick-and-roll game plan. Barnes polled his NBA contacts about the toughest pro offenses, and when the Jazz emerged as the unanimous response, he flew to Salt Lake. Jazz GM Kevin O'Connor says he saw his team's imprint on the Longhorns as soon as the new season started. Flex cuts, screening the screener and weak-side curls had taken over the Erwin Center floor.

No one is happier about the transformation than Jordan Hamilton. He is averaging team highs in points 18.7 PPG and rebounds 7.6 RPG, but more important, he is scoring in more varied ways than ever before. According to Synergy Sports Technology, 20.5 percent of his shots come off of screens or post-up moves (that number was 5.1 percent last year), and he has improved his points per possession on nearly every type of play. "You could put him in a phone booth, and he'd figure out how to score," says Oklahoma coach Jeff Capel."
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Source ESPN.com
 
If Hamilton can put up numbers like that in the NBA then you obviously pick him at 12. Things I've heard about his head and his D concern me, but I agree he's definitely in play at 12. I would not be upset if the Jazz got him there.
 
Yeah, Knight and Jones in draft now. No agent but doubt they pull out. Both are definite possibilities. One thing I like about Jones is that he would help our rebounding out a lot. Averaged about 9 boards a game.
 
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