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2011 draft.....

So the Jazz are going to average 125 points a game!?

Burks seems like a stretch at 6 and Nolan Smith is definitely a stretch at 12

And where does Jefferson go? I highly doubt that Jefferson will be traded but if he does, we will get a very good package for him. Guys that get 19 10 and 2 don't grow on trees


And btw, Jefferson is our C people deal with it. He said he likes playing C and next to Favors and Millsap at SF.
 
green said:
Since the Jazz will be awful this next year as well, here is the plan:

Draft Nolan Smith and Alec Burks this year. We then go out and continue being one of the worst teams in basketball and that leaves us #1 and 8-9 pick in the draft. We draft Rivers at SG and a C with #1 and #8-9. In three to four years our team looks like this:
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This year is front court heavy. If you don't get a top talent or one doesn't fall to you then draft a big. Alec Burks is getting a lot of attention because he's one of the only SGs this year. Not a home run and there are more options next year anyway so wait to draft your backcourt next year.

I'm becoming more interested in Bismark after all enthusiasm. It'll be interesting to see how he does in workouts / at combine.
 
You gotta root for Biyombo. If he does well enough, he could conceivably cause someone to drop to the Jazz, or sell his case as a legit prospect for the Jazz to pick. So I'm rooting for him. Besides, I like when players from less fortunate lands find great success.

-Borat
 
One thing I like about that Bismack kid from watching the vids is 90 percent of his dunks are with two hands and he's not always jumping right under the rim (where most two handed dunks occur). He takes off wherever he is with the idea of dunking two hands. That's pretty athletic, but more importantly nobody is blocking those dunks. When he goes up to dunk, the ball is getting dunked.
 
billyshelby said:
One thing I like about that Bismack kid from watching the vids is 90 percent of his dunks are with two hands and he's not always jumping right under the rim (where most two handed dunks occur). He takes off wherever he is with the idea of dunking two hands. That's pretty athletic, but more importantly nobody is blocking those dunks. When he goes up to dunk, the ball is getting dunked.
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Or he gets to the line. This idea seems to escape a lot of players somehow. Even Favors.
 
Questions concerning Bismack Biyombo's age don't worry me very much. Biyombo doesn't look like he is 25, remember people were questioning Thabeet and Jianlian about their age, Thabeet was drafted with the 2nd pick and Jianlian was drafted with the 6th pick. I am not trying to compare Biyombo to Rodman, but whenever Rodman was drafted by the Pistons he was 25.

Ben Wallace seems like a great comparison to me, I would definitely like to see the Jazz draft Biyombo with the 12th pick if he is there. Drafting Bismack with the 6th pick wouldn't be the right choice, it would be just too much of a reach there. It would be awesome to see a defensive front-court with Biyombo at PF and Favors at C in the future.
 
billyshelby said:
One thing I like about that Bismack kid from watching the vids is 90 percent of his dunks are with two hands and he's not always jumping right under the rim (where most two handed dunks occur). He takes off wherever he is with the idea of dunking two hands. That's pretty athletic, but more importantly nobody is blocking those dunks. When he goes up to dunk, the ball is getting dunked.
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I totally agree. The kid really attacks the rim. Even from say 10 feet out, he makes one long stride/move to the rim and reaches out, ball palmed, and virtually dunks it. I'd love to get lucky, draft Irving, Williams or Barnes (if he comes out) and then get this kid with the 12th pick. If he is what he looks like, that makes trading Jefferson (I vote him) or Millsap even more possible.
 
Does anyone else like the notion of trading down (if someone special isn't there) from 12 to about 16 or so and drafting Singleton from FSU. Dude could be a total lockdown defender at the 3. He's mediocre offensively but I feel like with a young core and Hornacek now on the staff full-time, he could improve and the combo of Hayward and Singleton at the 3 could be formidable defensively.
 
There should be no more questions about Bismack's age. He produced a Hawaiian birth certificate at the last round of interviews.

Seriously, I'd be happy to see Jimmer drafted #11 and then the Jazz having to "settle" for Bismack at #12.
 
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Hope he reads this

Glen Davis Advises Sullinger To Test Draft Waters, Develop Outside Shot

Apr 10, 2011 1:52 PM EDT
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Glen Davis was a thickly built post player at LSU who wowed NBA scouts with his skill and athleticism after a successful college season.
Davis’s desire to improve his draft stock, as well as his enjoyment of college life, led to him staying in school for another year, allowing scouts to dissect his game, and rethink his size and desire. Davis dropped to the second round after initially believing he was a lottery pick.
Ohio State freshman Jared Sullinger is in a similar situation.
Listed at 6 feet 9 inches and 280 pounds, he combines stunning athleticism for his size with power and yet a graceful touch around the basket. With the loss to Kentucky still fresh, Sullinger promised to return to school for his sophomore season.
“[That extra year] just gives them a chance to critique you, see what kind of player you are,’’ Davis said. “You’ve got to go while you’re hot, or at least test it out. Don’t hire an agent. That’s what I could have done, just to see.
“The difference with me [my junior year] is I didn’t win, but my numbers were the same,’’ Davis said. “When I was playing, I just didn’t win. That’s a big difference. This was one of [Sullinger’s] winningest years. If he comes back, he’s got to win. Everybody knows he’s got the talent to play in the NBA. It’s about what’s he going to do in the offseason.
“The way you have to separate yourself is by hitting the open jump shot,’’ Davis said. “You have to be able to do some different things. I felt like if I didn’t hit the jump shot I wouldn’t be successful because I don’t jump high.”

Via Gary Washburn/Boston Globe


Read more: https://basketball.realgm.com/wiret...aft_Waters_Develop_Outside_Shot#ixzz1JAXri6yF​
 
KrazeeEyezKilla said:
Does anyone else like the notion of trading down (if someone special isn't there) from 12 to about 16 or so and drafting Singleton from FSU. Dude could be a total lockdown defender at the 3. He's mediocre offensively but I feel like with a young core and Hornacek now on the staff full-time, he could improve and the combo of Hayward and Singleton at the 3 could be formidable defensively.
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Very few teams have had success with wings that can't shoot, and Singleton can't shoot. Teams would just sag off him like Brewer and AK creating a nightmare for Favors, Millsap, and Jefferson.
 
I agree that if you are going to be in the lottery I say go in the draft. History is full of players thar went back to school and dropped out of the lottery. Why run the risk of an injury?
 
Thanks for posting the article, Jazzrule. You rule.

Agreed. He's not going top 5 next year. Regardless of lockout, when you're projected that high you come out or risk falling to second round or worse. Glad Big Baby's doling out advice.
 
green said:
Since the Jazz will be awful this next year as well, here is the plan:

Draft Nolan Smith and Alec Burks this year. We then go out and continue being one of the worst teams in basketball and that leaves us #1 and 8-9 pick in the draft. We draft Rivers at SG and a C with #1 and #8-9. In three to four years our team looks like this:

PG - Smith 15 and 8. Harris 10 and 4
SG - Rivers 25 ppg. Burks 10
SF - Hayward 15 and 8 rebs. Evans 10 and 2 stls and 1 blk
PF - Favors 20 and 10 and 2 blks. Millsap 10 and 8
C - someone to take Jefferson's place. 10 and 10. Tomic 10 and 6.

NBA Finals!
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This is by far the worst proposal of what to do with our picks EVER. I mean...are you serious???????
 
I agree 100%, he doesn't look 25 at all and I really do hope that the Jazz take him with the 12th pick.
 
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