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2011 draft.....

I love Earl. We're all getting on the same page.

I actually couldn't decide between Barnes and Kanter. Barnes made the decision for me. Now I can't decide between Kanter and Bismack. I guess whoever falls.
 
tristan thompson, texas forward has opted to be in the draft. thompson is a solid player. Lefty. has a jumpshot, nice hook, can work both hands, and is good around hte rim. he is a freshman and is active on the boards. hes a decent blocker as well. id like him more than jimmer if available at 12. hook em!
 
AKistheFEARFACTOR said:
tristan thompson, texas forward has opted to be in the draft. thompson is a solid player. Lefty. has a jumpshot, nice hook, can work both hands, and is good around hte rim. he is a freshman and is active on the boards. hes a decent blocker as well. id like him more than jimmer if available at 12. hook em!
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I like Thompson too. But it's gonna be Fredette. We all know it. Unless someone grabs him first.

And while I'm for drafting BPA rather than for need, I think the Jazz need Fredette's outside shot more than another forward. I don't think Fredette is the BPA at 12 but the Jazz could use him. Or maybe Klay Thompson.
 
The Thriller said:
Favors would be our only legit player that could matchup against Bosh, Aldrich, Duncan, Gasol/Bynum, Randolf/Gasol, KG, Amare, Nene, and Dwight Howard.
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Really? Well I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you meant Aldridge.

I am not sure I would change the big men lineup significantly other than having Millsap off the bench, and I am relying on Favors improving in the next few years. I believe Al Jefferson will be a valuable piece of the puzzle just like Randolph is to the Grizzlies, except Al is way better defensively.
 
I like a lot of the recent posts here. At #6, I'd like Bimbo, and then at #12, don't settle. IMO though, we should target a 1 or 3 and if one's not there (Terrence Jones, Leonard?), try to move down, or perhaps even move up if the price isn't that hefty.
 
Zerol said:
Really? Well I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you meant Aldridge.

I am not sure I would change the big men lineup significantly other than having Millsap off the bench, and I am relying on Favors improving in the next few years. I believe Al Jefferson will be a valuable piece of the puzzle just like Randolph is to the Grizzlies, except Al is way better defensively.
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I dunno about defensively.

I think jazz fans develop hatred for players and just stick with it without really watching them. Guys like Big Baby, Zach, and CP3 all seem to be on the list of top most hated players by the Jazz. Yet, we'd kill to have them on our team.

Big Zach is a big ox who is limited with his jumping ability. Having said that, the dude isn't lazy. How often did we see Al fail to box out? Or Millsap just stand there as his man scored? Zach and Gasol have dominated the Spurs inside. He helped lead a Grizz team playing without Gay into the playoffs. He's one of the best rebounders in the game and has a much more physically dominate low post game than any of our bigs. I like Zach.

I still maintain that the jury is still out on Al Jefferson being an effective player on a playoff team. So far in his career he's proven to put up decent numbers on crappy teams. I haven't seen him lead anything, show an ability to be an efficient scorer, and do all the "little things" to win.

Millsap has proven to me that he's undersized and needs to work at playing the 3.

Favors has shown potential, but we'll see what happens....

Fess is junk. And Evans is wayyyy too skinny.

Yes, our PG situation is questionable. Is Harris the answer? Or is he just a bandaid for the real solution via draft/trade/FA?

Yes, our wings (other than Hayward) suck. Yet, I'm not seeing any wings that will be available at 6 that will significantly help us in the short and long term.

Might as well try and continue to draft size and strength inside.

As the best NBA teams have shown, you can never have too much size. And as the Celtics are showing, they really miss size (despite stats. Green for Perkins was a no brainer. But considering the size and physicality that Perkins plays with... The Celtics are missing him badly while the Thunder could care less).
 
The Thriller said:
After watching nearly all the playoff games it's pretty obvious to me that the Jazz not only need guards that can create and score, but they need to seriously upgrade their bigmen.

Fess is garbage. Evans is weak. Al is meh... He typically needs the ball a lot to be effective. Jury is still out on whether he can be an effective big man for a winning team. Millsap is way too short.

Favors would be our only legit player that could matchup against Bosh, Aldrich, Duncan, Gasol/Bynum, Randolf/Gasol, KG, Amare, Nene, and Dwight Howard.

So if a player like Biyombo or Kanter (although I have reservations about his athleticism and durability) is available when we pick, I think we should take one. Our frontline is still undersized, nonathletic, and pretty defensively inept (especially Millsap. Who should really be thinking about moving to the SF spot).

Even if they don't turn out to be great, at least they're big. They'll bring size.
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Oh my hell. WTF, ALDRICH?!??!? Are you retarded. Has he even gotten off the bench
 
Could a player that commited to go back to school change his mind? They could right? With what the NBA is saying now with the lost sponsorships and so forth and their obvious concern about the long term effects of a lockout, I feel that there will not be a work stoppage that has the league missing games. As this info has only been comming out over the past few days, could a player like Perry Jones decide he needs to take his shot now?
 
BOX said:
Could a player that commited to go back to school change his mind? They could right? With what the NBA is saying now with the lost sponsorships and so forth and their obvious concern about the long term effects of a lockout, I feel that there will not be a work stoppage that has the league missing games. As this info has only been comming out over the past few days, could a player like Perry Jones decide he needs to take his shot now?
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Yes they could but they would receive a lot of backlash and criticism of character. I wouldn't expect stuff like this to happen, but it could.
 
The Thriller said:
I dunno about defensively.

I think jazz fans develop hatred for players and just stick with it without really watching them. Guys like Big Baby, Zach, and CP3 all seem to be on the list of top most hated players by the Jazz. Yet, we'd kill to have them on our team.

Big Zach is a big ox who is limited with his jumping ability. Having said that, the dude isn't lazy. How often did we see Al fail to box out? Or Millsap just stand there as his man scored? Zach and Gasol have dominated the Spurs inside. He helped lead a Grizz team playing without Gay into the playoffs. He's one of the best rebounders in the game and has a much more physically dominate low post game than any of our bigs. I like Zach.

I still maintain that the jury is still out on Al Jefferson being an effective player on a playoff team. So far in his career he's proven to put up decent numbers on crappy teams. I haven't seen him lead anything, show an ability to be an efficient scorer, and do all the "little things" to win.

Millsap has proven to me that he's undersized and needs to work at playing the 3.

Favors has shown potential, but we'll see what happens....

Fess is junk. And Evans is wayyyy too skinny.

Yes, our PG situation is questionable. Is Harris the answer? Or is he just a bandaid for the real solution via draft/trade/FA?

Yes, our wings (other than Hayward) suck. Yet, I'm not seeing any wings that will be available at 6 that will significantly help us in the short and long term.

Might as well try and continue to draft size and strength inside.

As the best NBA teams have shown, you can never have too much size. And as the Celtics are showing, they really miss size (despite stats. Green for Perkins was a no brainer. But considering the size and physicality that Perkins plays with... The Celtics are missing him badly while the Thunder could care less).
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Randolph is lazy, he has gotten much better this year, but he is still lazy. He has a good match-up because none of the Spurs bigs are quick footed,face up 4's.
 
KrazeeEyezKilla said:
I like a lot of the recent posts here. At #6, I'd like Bimbo, and then at #12, don't settle. IMO though, we should target a 1 or 3 and if one's not there (Terrence Jones, Leonard?), try to move down, or perhaps even move up if the price isn't that hefty.
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I assume you mean don't settle for Jimmer at #12, which I generally agree, but still would like to get Jimmer somehow on the team for a backup PG. Maybe Miles could fetch a 15-18th pick?
 
Jazz4ever said:
I assume you mean don't settle for Jimmer at #12, which I generally agree, but still would like to get Jimmer somehow on the team for a backup PG. Maybe Miles could fetch a 15-18th pick?
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Jimmer won't be there at #12. With everyone staying in school we will have to trade up to take Jimmer. Jimmer is the best playing in the draft. We shouldn't take any risks on missing out on the best shooter.
 
**** is bad when we have to hear anyone talk about how great it would be to have Zach ****ing Randolph.
 
Jazz4ever said:
I assume you mean don't settle for Jimmer at #12, which I generally agree, but still would like to get Jimmer somehow on the team for a backup PG. Maybe Miles could fetch a 15-18th pick?
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That would take a miracle, even in what could be the thinnest draft of all time.
 
BOX said:
Could a player that commited to go back to school change his mind? They could right? With what the NBA is saying now with the lost sponsorships and so forth and their obvious concern about the long term effects of a lockout, I feel that there will not be a work stoppage that has the league missing games. As this info has only been comming out over the past few days, could a player like Perry Jones decide he needs to take his shot now?
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They can until April 24th. Player must notify the NBA in writting by 60 days prior to the NBA draft (June 23) but I'm guessing they would get killed in the media. If I was an agent I would be begging the parents of Jones, Sullinger, Henson, Barnes to get thier name in. This class is so weak, and there has got to be uncertainty about what the CBA will do to rookie contracts....get locked in now for 4-6 million per year.
 
Am I the only one who thinks that the Jazz's biggest need in the draft is the wing position? They need a good shooter to compliment Hayward aka GTIME. Jordan Hamilton at 12? Texas was trying to run the Jazz's offense this past year. Would come in a little bit a head of the curve.

I am also one of the few people who think that Derrick Williams would have no problem at the 3 ala Atwan Jamison. If the Jazz got into the Top 3, he would be a good fit I think. Also see some Lamar Odom potential out of Terrence Jones.

I don't think Alec Burks would be a good fit if his biggest weakness if shooting.

Also kind of like what people say about Jan Vessely.
 
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