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margodydek said:
Ryan Feldman from The Hoops Report was tweeting quite a bit about the draft last night and said that he's been getting new information on a daily basis and as of right now the Jazz are leaning towards Kanter at #3. He went on to say that at #12 if The Jimmer is there, they will not pass on him. So according to his updated mock he has us getting Kanter & Jimmer (is there any way we can lock this in?) Not sure how much credible info he's getting, but if it is just a theory on his part it is a pretty logical one. He mentioned that the draft is all about getting value. According to him Knight, Walker & Jimmer are all relatively close as far as PG's , and one of them, possibly even two (most likely Jimmer & Walker) could still be there at 12. BTW his mock now has Kemba at 13. So if the Jazz are confident that at least one of the three are there at 12, why waste the #3 on one of them? Anyways I hope this happens as I wish the Jazz will go big with their first pick and then they can go small with their 2nd.
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I'd be happy with this.
 
I'd take who's ever left between Irving, Williams, and Kanter at #3 and know that we'll get a another good pick up at #12. I believe there's a good chance that either Jimmer or Kemba will be there, but if not, there will still be several good players to choose from ..
 
Kanter at 3. Good. The Jazz are starting to make me feel more secure.
All of these reports don't mean that much, but it's good to hear rumors they are going after the guy you want.

Kanter and Jimmer makes a lot of us VERY happy draft night.
 
Found this post on Kingsfan.com...

...and I liked this Kings fans' assessment so I thought I'd post it here:

Since we're now looking at PGs at #7 (IMO, a dumb move; we can get better ones out of free agency, and the PGs up top are overrated), I've created a list:

NO CHANCE) Kyrie Irving
--Certified NBA ready with elite level offensive upside--best among draftees. Great offensive player. Might be an excellent shooter. Elite level offensive construct, preferred slasher but takes a fair share of threes. Nil bust potential.
--Pure PG.
--Very good at making defensive plays for his size (6'4"ish) without fouling.
--Very small wingspan. Bad conditioning.
--Bad rebounder.
NBA Comparison: Taller Chris Paul (now)
--Rook Stat Line (in 20 mins): 4-7 FGs, 2-2 3FG, 4-4 FTs, 0 reb, 6 ast, 3 steals, 1 block, 2 TOs

GOODISH OPTION:
1) Kemba Walker
--NBA ready. Very good offensive player. Good shooter with good offensive construct. Preferred slasher.
--Good PG skills. More scorer the past year.
--Very good at making defensive plays for his size (6'1") without fouling.
--Very good leaping ability, both straight up and with a running start. Good conditioning. Good lateral quickness. Goodish transition speed.
--Bad wingspan and bad reach--very small on court. Needs to add strength.
--Poor rebounder.
--NBA Comparison: Darren Collison
--Rook Stat Line (in 20 mins): 4-9 FGs, 1-2 3FG, 5-6 FTs, 1 reb, 4 ast, 2 steals, 2 TOs

SLEEPERS:
2) Reggie Jackson
--Quite NBA ready. Very good rebounder for size (6'3"). Goodish PG skills.
--Just a fair offensive player. Decent shooter, but poor offensive construct.
--Poor defensive playmaker. Conserves energy for offense.
--NBA Comparison: Jarrett Jack
--Rook Stat Line (in 20 mins): 2-5 FGs, 0-1 3FG, 0-0 FTs, 5 reb, 3 ast, 0 steals, 1 TOs

3) Jimmer Fredette
--Elite level scorer. Elite shooter with good offensive construct. Draws fouls and shoots from distance.
--Has a bit of combo PG skills. Much more of a scorer this year.
--Quite strong. Good lateral quickness. Nondescript in transition. Middling conditioning. Subpar leaping ability. Bad wingspan.
--Poor defensive playmaker. Very much conserves his energy for offense.
--Nonexistent rebounder for size (6'3"ish).
--Just OK NBA-readiness.
--NBA Comparison: Mike Bibby/JJ Redick
--Rook Stat Line (in 20 mins): 3-5 FGs, 2-3 3FG, 4-4 FTs, 0 reb, 2 ast, 0 steals, 1 TO

4) Brandon Knight
--Good offensive player. Good shooter with good offensive construct. Preferred three point shooter.
--Good lateral quickness and very good in transition. Very good conditioning. Good leaping ability with a running start. OK strength. Poor wingspan.
--SG level passer/court vision at 6'3". Turnover prone.
--Nonexistent defensive playmaker. Very bad rebounder.
--Poor NBA readiness.
--NBA Comparison: Brandon Jennings
--Rook Stat Line (in 20 mins): 2-6 FGs, 2-4 3FG, 2-2 FTs, 0 reb, 2 ast, 0 steals, 3 TOs
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I think the only hope of a Deron-esque replacement at PG is Irving. If he's off the board I wouldn't waste the 3rd pick on one of the other guys, just take whoever falls to 12.
 
BENTLEY said:
...and I liked this Kings fans' assessment so I thought I'd post it here:



I think the only hope of a Deron-esque replacement at PG is Irving. If he's off the board I wouldn't waste the 3rd pick on one of the other guys, just take whoever falls to 12.
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I disagree with some of his assessment but agree with what you took from the overall post. It's real simple, BPA at both picks.
 
Because of all this draft watch it's going to be fun to watch all these rookies this upcoming season. I've never been this into a draft(it's not even close), and because of that I'll have more reason than ever to follow other games around the NBA to see my man Jan dunking on everybody, Jimmer making Jason Terry fall down, and Biyombo missing a lot of layups.

Should be fun.
 
davidbenoit said:
Because of all this draft watch it's going to be fun to watch all these rookies this upcoming season. I've never been this into a draft(it's not even close), and because of that I'll have more reason ever to follow other games around the NBA to see my man Jan dunking on everybody, Jimmer making Jason Terry fall down, and Biyombo miss a lot of layups.

Should be fun.
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Rep for good humor.
 
I think 5 years down the line we'll be looking at Knight as the good NBA starter, and Jimmer as the good backup energy player(scoring).

I'm ok with Jimmer at 12 because it looks like his shooting will translate. Having that punch off the bench will be nice. We can even play
Jimmer together with Harris, and it will be a lot better to watch that when Price was playing the 2.

My point is that there is a gap between Jimmer and Knight. Sure maybe neither is all-star bound, but I think only
one will be starting in 5 years.
 
Realistically, right now #3 is between Kanter and Knight with the Jazz leaning towards Kanter as BPA at the moment, and at #12 whoever falls to the, between Jimmer and Kemba will be the choice, if somehow neither are there nobody really knows who the pick will be.
 
nothingbutnet said:
Realistically, right now #3 is between Kanter and Knight with the Jazz leaning towards Kanter as BPA at the moment, and at #12 whoever falls to the, between Jimmer and Kemba will be the choice, if somehow neither are there nobody really knows who the pick will be.
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A draft of Kanter and a PG @12 > Knight and a PG @12. IMO.
 
I don't care which one of the top 3 the Jazz get but I don't want them to pass on Irving, Williams or Kanter if they are available. I don't think I would trade down unless the Jazz are not in love with any of the top three and they have a specific targeted player not in the top 3. If this is the case then they need to drop down and get more assets if possible. However, the deal has to be really good to do this.

At 12, my hope is to get a decent role player to fill out the roster at SG/SF/PG.
 
Jeremy Tyler game film

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uCROY49_c8g#at=53

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZlcOFXXPDI&feature=player_embedded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ij62usN5x4w&feature=player_embedded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7C-DXAS7I4&feature=player_embedded
 
theGrizzFan said:
Cleveland is the only team in the draft that will win at least ten more games next season because of their picks. With that said, the Jazz can't lose by picking Jimmer. There may be a few more athletic players ahead of him, but this is a weak draft, and Jimmer plays with heart. Look at those dirty rotten Lakers. Had they played with heart, they would be champs again. Five years from now we will be lucky to remember a handful of this years rookies. Jimmer will be one of them.
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Washington could win 10 more games next year too imo.
 
margodydek said:
Not sure if it's already been posted, so sorry if it has, but Ryan Feldman from The Hoops Report was tweeting quite a bit about the draft last night and said that he's been getting new information on a daily basis and as of right now the Jazz are leaning towards Kanter at #3. He went on to say that at #12 if The Jimmer is there, they will not pass on him. So according to his updated mock he has us getting Kanter & Jimmer (is there any way we can lock this in?) Not sure how much credible info he's getting, but if it is just a theory on his part it is a pretty logical one. He mentioned that the draft is all about getting value. According to him Knight, Walker & Jimmer are all relatively close as far as PG's, and one of them, possibly even two (most likely Jimmer & Walker) could still be there at 12. BTW his mock now has Kemba at 13. So if the Jazz are confident that at least one of the three are there at 12, why waste the #3 on one of them? Anyways I hope this happens as I wish the Jazz will go big with their first pick and then they can go small with their 2nd.
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Finally Feldman admits his Walker rumor was bogus, he was pretty stubborn on that. A Kanter/Jimmer draft is looking likely. Will have to wait for a SF next year, so AK could be resigned I think.
 
BENTLEY said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uCROY49_c8g#at=53

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZlcOFXXPDI&feature=player_embedded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ij62usN5x4w&feature=player_embedded

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7C-DXAS7I4&feature=player_embedded
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What are the shooting percentages in this league?
 
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