HighlandHomie
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I think we should challenged Gonzaga this year for the WCC title and make a tournament run. The game against Stanford tonight will be a good test. Any other Coug fans on here or is it mostly dirty Ute fans?
2013-14 BYU Basketball #CougNation
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HighlandHomie
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I meant to put this in the general discussion forum. Which forum does BYU stuff go in?
Duck Rodgers
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They're going to be fun to watch. And they don't have anybody that annoys the crap out of me anymore(Cusick and Zysltra). Though, maybe Nate Austin since he's 6'11" and plays like a woman in the post sometimes.
They can get to the rim at will, lots of complimentary pieces, Collinsworth being back makes a big difference on perimeter defense. A young big with loads of upside that should get better every game. Lots of positives. I hope Stanford zones hardcore tonight though so we can see how they handle that. I'm not convinced BYU can 3 ball themselves out of jams, but with their ability to get into the lane, and having multiple guys on the court that are pretty good passers when they want to be, they might be able to pick it apart still.
And Matt Carlino has a been an absolute terror in the first few looks this year. If he's going to go for 20/night, book BYU as a 3 or 4 seed right now. Otherwise I think BYU will probably be in the 8-11 range.
They can get to the rim at will, lots of complimentary pieces, Collinsworth being back makes a big difference on perimeter defense. A young big with loads of upside that should get better every game. Lots of positives. I hope Stanford zones hardcore tonight though so we can see how they handle that. I'm not convinced BYU can 3 ball themselves out of jams, but with their ability to get into the lane, and having multiple guys on the court that are pretty good passers when they want to be, they might be able to pick it apart still.
And Matt Carlino has a been an absolute terror in the first few looks this year. If he's going to go for 20/night, book BYU as a 3 or 4 seed right now. Otherwise I think BYU will probably be in the 8-11 range.
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HighlandHomie
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Hopefully Carlino is a little more consistent this year and smarter with his decision making. I think Mika is going to be awesome. Is he going on his mission next year?
Duck Rodgers
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Well, there we are. Question answered. Stanford runs zone all night and BYU carves them up to the tune of 112.
HighlandHomie
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Great performance last night. Carlino is going to drive me crazy by the end of the season. But BYU looked great obviously.
Duck Rodgers
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Sweet news on the recruiting front:
https://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1346218.html
BYU has had their guard line shored up for years for awhile through recruiting, now the big man picture is coming together.
https://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1346218.html
BYU has had their guard line shored up for years for awhile through recruiting, now the big man picture is coming together.
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Duck Rodgers
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And last night was exactly why I said that about their 3 point bombs. 1 for 21 from 3. I knew they had that in them. Granted, White Rip hasn't played the last 2 games, it was the second game of a back-to-back, and they still won by 20+, but you do that against Iowa State/Texas/Whichita St/Utah State, their next 4 games, and you have tough game on your hands. Their ability to get into the lane does make up for a lot though.
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HighlandHomie
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Huge game coming up against Iowa State. Is Haws going to play? We don't have a chance if he's out.
Duck Rodgers
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I don't know, Winder has been pretty solid. He scores on a lot of good cuts. Looks quick this year. Plays good defense. Solid passer. His biggest knock is that he shoots like an All-American one game from 3 point range, and then doesn't hit anything for like 3 or 4 games from that range. If the on version of him shows up, they might still have a chance sans Haws at home. I'd rather have Haws' consistency, superior height, ability to score from everywhere, court awareness, underrated rebounding, etc. of course, but the cupboard isn't completely bare.
HighlandHomie
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Are you an Iowa State fan? Or a Ute fan? Cyclones were impressive against an overrated Michigan team. I think Iowa State is thin inside and if Mika can stay out of foul trouble, we'll have an advantage. We also need Haws on the court. It should be a great game.
I'm an Iowa State fan. Yes BYU has taller players inside, but unless Mika can efficiently score on the block I don't think there is an advantage. He'll also have to defend a player who can put the ball on the floor and take it to the basket, so staying out of foul trouble may be tough for an inexperienced player. Mika will likely be matched up against Georges Niang who is a very weak defender, and Mika will probably out-rebound him individually. But I'm guessing Iowa State will easily dominate the boards at every other position. This Iowa State team is not as skilled at last year's and has far less sharpshooters, but is way more athletic and has the potential to defend 1-4 dominantly. I'm curious as to who will/might be guarding the ISU point guard Deandre Kane, he will be tough to stop for BYU imo.
A big difference from last year's BYU team is Kyle Collinsworth and Mika (freshmen big man). BYU has upgraded their toughness and athletic ability with those two. Also Carlino and Haws look to have gain strength with age. I will be very suprised if BYU doesn't hold it own on the boards.
Mika has a basic post game but uses his size and strength to get really close to the hoop.
Ah, well then BYU will fare much better this year. Davies played very soft, and I just assumed BYU had more soft bigs. I seriously doubt the point guard and wings are as strong and athletic as ISU's. I'm sure BYU overmatches them in skill, however. Mika will probably cause some problems as an athletic big guy.
Anyhow, Fred Hoiberg is a genius, and as a BYU fan I'd expect to see a lot of Deandre Kane posting up guards on the block, Ejim and Niang on the perimeter isolated against bigs or elbow/block against smaller guys, and Dustin Hogue on the block against smaller players.
Duck Rodgers
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Let's get down to the finer points of Iowa State. Explain the Iowa State bird mascot to me. Your rival is Iowa, right? Which are the Hawkeyes, and you guys are are the Cyclones but you share the same mascot? Was it intended to piss them off?
'Cy' is the name of that lovely cardinal (the colors are cardinal and gold). He is no longer part of the logo. The old logo was him stirring up a a cyclone. The University of Iowa is the in-state rival, but is known better as EIU (Eastern Iowa University) to Cyclone fans. Iowa Hawkeye fans are unbearable. Most of their fans have not attended the university and specialize at being white trash and serving french fries. Iowa State's football team is dreadful, but they have the equivalent of Christ incarnate as a basketball coach.
Actually, strike that. Fred Hoiberg > Christ incarnate
Actually, strike that. Fred Hoiberg > Christ incarnate
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lol that guy
That he was an amazing player and model member of the community during his time at ISU