2014 Draft Prospects - Not so great any more?

[franklin]

<<<-------- following potential 2015 draft prospectees

 

[addictionary]

My God look at that difference with the 8th seeds in the West and East this season.

The Jazz could end up in a pretty good place in the draft if the system worked in order to divide the top ten picks equal between the conferences.

 

[fishonjazz]

I still think this is the best draft since lebrons draft.
Maybe not as superstar filled as i once thought, but maybe even more all star filled than i had thought before the season began

 

[Fabtrey]

for Jabari it actually make sense to stay 1 more year

1. for next year he will most likely be #1 pick over all instead of #2 or #3 pick
2. he improves his own image for staying 1 more year
3. he can develop his game more with coach K
4. winning ncaa championship does wonders for overall resume
5. he improves the image of his religion (which is probably very important to him)

yes, there is an injury concern, but it's not like he is a linebacker.

if we aren't getting him this year, i would rather see him stay one more year. maybe we can tank again next year. lol

 

[JAZZGASM]

Just saw an article on RealGM where Embiid is studying Duncan and other great centers, and it emphasized that Embiid was interested that they all stayed in college for 2 years. Makes me wonder if he will declare.

: https://https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/231593/Embiid-I-Want-To-Be-The-Best-At-My-Position-One-Day

 

[fishonjazz]

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if we aren't getting him this year, i would rather see him stay one more year. maybe we can tank again next year. lol

Please no, Im fine with tanking this year (was enjoying it in fact) but next year I want to get back to winning.

Gonna be so pissed if any of the projected top 5 or 6 picks dont declare for the nba draft this year.

 

[jope]

for Jabari it actually make sense to stay 1 more year

1. for next year he will most likely be #1 pick over all instead of #2 or #3 pick

I get all the other points, but in doing this, he would take a big risk (injury, misfortune, public perception issues that may or may not arise) to go from 2014 #2 ($4,108,800, $4,293,700, $4,478,600 = $12,881,100) to 2015 #1 ($4,753,000, $4,966,800, $5,180,700 = 14,900,500); a 3 year difference of $2,019,400 or about 673K per year.

that is not a huge difference per year, and it is also adding an extra year of making 0 dollars, and pushes the date back (if he really ends up being as good as advertised) for when he can get the max contract (8 figures) and potentially reduces his lifetime earning potential (more years working = more lifetime earnings)

then consider other factors beyond just injury, what if he doesn't improve in his 2nd year by much? his ceiling would drop considerbly, would be a year older, and the less mystery there is about you, sometimes equals less hype you'll get and less risk the owners will take on you.

not saying he wouldn't benefit from another year of college, but it would a gigantic risk to pass up a guaranteed ~13 million dollars to go back to college (which with his NBA salary he could do anytime, when and where he wanted) and potentially not improve, get injured, fall out of the spotlight, or some other detrimental factor. Hell, even if he plays well enough to maintain the #2 spot in 2015, he'd still have just passed up a $4M payday, and can pencil in earning $4M less than he potentially could have in his lifetime. That is a monumental decision.

Look at harrison barnes, I saw him some mocks to go as high as #2 in 2011, but decided to stay in school, and was then drafted #7 in 2012. By returning to school, he theoretically cost himself $4.7M over 3 years, not to mention the year without pay that he could've made $3.8M.

Big risk.

 

[addictionary]

Players staying for school.

The first time I love this new draft class.

 

[Revolution 9]

Parker will come out. Book it. Too much to lose. He'll be tempted to stay, but ultimately choose the best choice for his future.

 

[Beantown]

Some NBA executives think Jabari will stay at Duke another season.

I don't like the sound of this. Here is the LINK:

https://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/01/20/report-nba-executives-increasingly-believe-jabari-parker-will-remain-at-duke-another-season/

 

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LINK:

Duke will probably be the best college basketball team of all-time next year if he stays.

 

[Revolution 9]

He may means in the end he won't.

 

[Beantown]

Yea there are a couple of stories about this report out there. The one article in the link is taking the point of no person can turn down that much money. But it still does happen. Look at Smart last year.

And if any player would stay it would be someone like Parker.

 

[kabenac]

Wait... what? Abandon the tank!!!

 

[JimLes]

I never understood this idea of leaving school early because of the potential for injury and missing out on a big paycheque. I mean, I understand the concept, but how likely is it? Has there been a player the last couple of decades who was a consensus lottery pick but decided to stay in school, then got hurt and never got drafted?

 

[Deleted member 848]

I never understood this idea of leaving school early because of the potential for injury and missing out on a big paycheque. I mean, I understand the concept, but how likely is it? Has there been a player the last couple of decades who was a consensus lottery pick but decided to stay in school, then got hurt and never got drafted?

I don't know, but I'm sure there's been hundreds of examples of players who had great lottery positioning, decided to return to school, and completely dropped in the draft-rankings to late first, even 2nd round, meaning their contracts aren't guaranteed (Perry Jones and Jared Sullinger come to mind in terms of recency).

 

[candrew]

I never understood this idea of leaving school early because of the potential for injury and missing out on a big paycheque. I mean, I understand the concept, but how likely is it? Has there been a player the last couple of decades who was a consensus lottery pick but decided to stay in school, then got hurt and never got drafted?

Hank Gathers.

His injury was death.

 

[fishonjazz]

He may means in the end he won't.

Engrish

 

[fishonjazz]

I never understood this idea of leaving school early because of the potential for injury and missing out on a big paycheque. I mean, I understand the concept, but how likely is it? Has there been a player the last couple of decades who was a consensus lottery pick but decided to stay in school, then got hurt and never got drafted?

I know its the nfl but matt leinart lost lots of money by staying in school.
Dala mentioned a couple of good ones. (sullinger, perry jones)

 

[fishonjazz]

Jope brought up harrison barnes in another thread as another player who lost some money by staying in school (though not a huge amount.)

Jope also mentioned a few good points about how if you stay in school, then you have to wait for the money (meaning you automatically lose at least one year of pay, so like 5 million dollars) plus its longer till each following contract/raise.