**2015-2016 season= to win means adding depth

[Lakers_Slapper]

Ultimately we should be doing everything we can to build a team that is a championship contender. We need a star + depth to our bench. Golden State has not only depth, but 2 superstars in Thompson and Curry. We need to be a championship contender, that is why (or should be why) these players get up every morning. First of all we are lacking depth. When one of our starting 5 hit the bench to get a breather they are replaced by someone who we either called up from the d league last minute, or someone that we signed to complete a roster out of desperation. If were not here trying to gain the success of a championship, then what the hell are we doing here??
We need to add depth to our bench. We need solid established pieces coming off the bench to support the starting 5. Our starting 5 needs a superstar ready to take on the role of being the go to guy. Please don't say Hayward. He has developed into a good player, but can not take over a game, when in need. If you think that we can do it with anything less, just ask the remaining teams in the Western Conference after Golden State hands their *** to them on a platter. Ask them how well their strategy worked out for them......

 

[freakazoid]

Hayward.

 

[Stoked]

Thank you repeating what has been said over and over and over. We never would have figured it out haha.

DL needs to step up this draft/offseason.

 

[sgjazzfan]

Honestly, Jazz just need to bring over Tomic and hope that he is able to play in the NBA. They have Exum/Burke at PG (granted, they need to improve, but are both young) to fill all the minutes at the PG, and can play together with Exum as SG a few minutes a game. They have Hood, Burks and Hayward that need 32+ minutes a game each which leaves 15-20 minutes for 1 more wing (could be Ingles, Milsap or the 2015 first rounder). Gobert and Favors at the 4/5 with Tomic playing main backup, and Booker playing the time after them. Rudy is turning into a superstar defensively and will only improve on the other end. Hayward is a borderline All-star right now. Favors is an above average PF (great defensively) that has improved each and every year. Hood has shown to be a more than capable scorer as a rookie.

 

[Twin Towers]

Makes me laugh when I see people say you need a superstar.
The Spurs did not have a superstar last year and they won.
Duncan, Parker & Ginobili you can't call a superstars anymore. They are solid players
Kawai is actually not a superstar yet.
It was just great team ball that won it.

People need to calm down with how the Warriors are playing. This happens almost every year. Where everyone gets hyped up with a team scoring a lot of points and dominating the conference.
Wait until playoffs when the pace slows down and everyone becomes more methodical.
Warriors have no chance to make it to the finals.

 

[fishonjazz]

Warriors have no chance to make it to the finals.

Bold

 

[Chargers Jazz Angels]

Harrison Barnes

Exum, Burke, Harrison
Hayward, Burks, millsap
Barnes, hood, jingles
Favors, Lee, teletovic
Gobert, tomic, pleiss

Depth, teamwork, defense, passing, shooting and scoring

 

[nightmare3983]

Makes me laugh when I see people say you need a superstar.
The Spurs did not have a superstar last year and they won.
Duncan, Parker & Ginobili you can't call a superstars anymore. They are solid players
Kawai is actually not a superstar yet.
It was just great team ball that won it.

People need to calm down with how the Warriors are playing. This happens almost every year. Where everyone gets hyped up with a team scoring a lot of points and dominating the conference.
Wait until playoffs when the pace slows down and everyone becomes more methodical.
Warriors have no chance to make it to the finals.

I don't think anybody is confusing the Warriors with the Steve Nash-led Suns teams. Besides being at number 2 in offensive rating, the Warriors are still at number 1 in defensive rating. They may not make the finals, but giving them no chance is silly.

 

[karl malone]

This is another reason why what we have done post ASG (& the entire season, really) is so amazing. We have little to no depth (which, considering the fact that we are in the 2nd year of fully committing to this rebuild, was likely by design) & have dealt with injuries to key players. I wouldn't be surprised if this team became playoff caliber by just adding more depth over the off-season (but then again, I wouldn't be surprised if this team became playoff caliber due purely to internal development & Burks returning, even if we lacked depth similarly to this year).

I agree that we need one more go-to-scorer alongside Hayward. Burks, Hood, or Exum could become that guy one day, but I see our biggest need as a 20+ ppg scorer, who can start alongside Exum, Hayward, Favors, & Gobert. After that, I agree that our biggest need is depth.

Right now it appears that we have 6 players that are definitely in our long-term plans.

Core players (starters/rotational):
Exum (starting PG)
Burks (6th man)
Hood (TBD)
Hayward (starting SG/SF)
Favors (starting PF)
Gobert (starting C)

Possible core players (rotational/depth):
Burke (possible backup PG)
Millsap (wing depth)
Ingles (wing depth)
Booker (possible backup PF)
Tomic (possible backup C)

Long shot core players (depth/end of the bench):
Neto (possible backup PG/backcourt depth)
Evans (possible frontcourt depth)
Pleiss (possible frontcourt depth)

The positions that still need to be determined are:
1. Starting wing- Either one of Burks/Hood could fill this position. Considering the other 4 projected starters & their style of play, Hood would seem to be the better fit of the 2, but I still think that, if we're going to reach our potential as a Championship caliber team, we will need to find our starting SG/SF in this draft, via FA, or by trade.
2. Backup PG- It could be Burke, but his style of play doesn't seem like the best fit alongside Burks, if he is in fact our 6th man of the future. Maybe it will end up being Neto, but he seems to be more of a 3rd pg rather than a primary backup. I think the ideal backup PG would be a young(ish) vet who can mentor Exum.
3. Backup PF- Booker is a more than acceptable backup 4, but the reason he (or Evans) likely won't be our long-term backup PF is due to Favors' & Gobert's lack of shooting range. Imo, a stretch 4 should be our biggest priority after a starting wing.
4. Backup C- If Tomic comes over, he will be our long-term backup.C. If he doesn't, which is very possible, we will likely look to acquire a defensive backup C, to play alongside our stretch 4. Pleiss is another possibility, but likely nothing more than a 5th big.

I expect most of these positions to be settled/addressed over the off-season.

 

[hawkeye]

Harrison Barnes

Exum, Burke, Harrison
Hayward, Burks, millsap
Barnes, hood, jingles
Favors, Lee, teletovic
Gobert, tomic, pleiss

Depth, teamwork, defense, passing, shooting and scoring

Harrison Barnes is a downgrade to Hood and Burks. If you want to sign him as a back up to Hayward then fine, but you don't move Hayward to the 2 and have both Hood and Burks come of the bench.

 

[Twin Towers]

The Warriors for sure have a good defense but the run and gun offense and jacking up outside shots doesn't work come playoff time. Teams beat you being tough and methodical in the playoffs.
I see the bigger teams down low winning the west.

 

[hawkeye]

This is another reason why what we have done post ASG (& the entire season, really) is so amazing. We have little to no depth (which, considering the fact that we are in the 2nd year of fully committing to this rebuild, was likely by design) & have dealt with injuries to key players. I wouldn't be surprised if this team became playoff caliber by just adding more depth over the off-season (but then again, I wouldn't be surprised if this team became playoff caliber due purely to internal development & Burks returning, even if we lacked depth similarly to this year).

I agree that we need one more go-to-scorer alongside Hayward. Burks, Hood, or Exum could become that guy one day, but I see our biggest need as a 20+ ppg scorer, who can start alongside Exum, Hayward, Favors, & Gobert. After that, I agree that our biggest need is depth.

Right now it appears that we have 6 players that are definitely in our long-term plans.

Core players (starters/rotational):
Exum (starting PG)
Burks (6th man)
Hood (TBD)
Hayward (starting SG/SF)
Favors (starting PF)
Gobert (starting C)

Possible core players (rotational/depth):
Burke (possible backup PG)
Millsap (wing depth)
Ingles (wing depth)
Booker (possible backup PF)
Tomic (possible backup C)

Long shot core players (depth/end of the bench):
Neto (possible backup PG/backcourt depth)
Evans (possible frontcourt depth)
Pleiss (possible frontcourt depth)

The positions that still need to be determined are:
1. Starting wing- Either one of Burks/Hood could fill this position. Considering the other 4 projected starters & their style of play, Hood would seem to be the better fit of the 2, but I still think that, if we're going to reach our potential as a Championship caliber team, we will need to find our starting SG/SF in this draft, via FA, or by trade.
2. Backup PG- It could be Burke, but his style of play doesn't seem like the best fit alongside Burks, if he is in fact our 6th man of the future. Maybe it will end up being Neto, but he seems to be more of a 3rd pg rather than a primary backup. I think the ideal backup PG would be a young(ish) vet who can mentor Exum.
3. Backup PF- Booker is a more than acceptable backup 4, but the reason he (or Evans) likely won't be our long-term backup PF is due to Favors' & Gobert's lack of shooting range. Imo, a stretch 4 should be our biggest priority after a starting wing.
4. Backup C- If Tomic comes over, he will be our long-term backup.C. If he doesn't, which is very possible, we will likely look to acquire a defensive backup C, to play alongside our stretch 4. Pleiss is another possibility, but likely nothing more than a 5th big.

I expect most of these positions to be settled/addressed over the off-season.

Don't look now, but Favors actually has a pretty reliable jump shot that is getting deeper. Also, Booker is shooting .33% from three in his FIRST season ever trying to shoot a three. As far as a back up PF I think Trevor Booker is not only acceptable, but he is damn good.
Yeah Booker will be making 5 Mil next year of our cap, but you know that as we continue to get better and start winning games he will want to resign. I could easily see him signing like a 3 year 10 million dollar deal (under the current cap) to stay with Utah.

 

[hawkeye]

I also think you have to put internal improvement into account. Don't get me wrong, I would love to bring in a Middleton/Matthews/Carol type player. I just personally think that Favors will be a go to scorer next to Hayward. His post allstar break numbers are pretty damn impressive. I would not be surprised at all if he turns into a consistant 20/10 guy now that he is back at the PF position.

 

[Eminence]

Yep, I think our starters are pretty much set for next season at least.

Exum/Hood/Hayward/Favors/Gobert is a great starting lineup I think. That leaves Burks to lead the bench squad as well, which I think could be his true calling. Just need to convince Tomic to come over to really round out the bench.

Exum/Burke
Hood/Burks
Hayward/Ingles
Favors/Booker
Gobert/Tomic

And that leaves us to draft BPA, which I can always love.

 

[Stoked]

The more time that passes the more I want the Jazz to go after De'Mare Carroll. Hard.

Gobert/Tomic/
Favors/Booker
Carroll/Hood
Hayward/Burks
Exum/Burke

Then trade a bunch of assets (picks, Pliess & Neto, players like Cooley and Johnson) for a higher draft pick and go after Russell.

That team has:

Two very high energy/hustle guys in Carroll and Booker.
Shooting with Hayward, Hood and Carroll and to a lesser extent Exum and Burks
Slashing with Burks, Hayward and Burke
Rebounding with Gobert, Favors and Carroll
Very long line up with a 7'1, 6'11, 6'8, 6'8 and 6'6 starting lineup
Plus Carroll would fit great with the defense mindset.
Fits our price range
Only 28 so he coincides with the rise into the prime of Hayward, Burks and Favors.

Thoughts? Any better options for the Jazz

 

[Edgewriter]

I love Carroll. Imagine the scrums with Booker and Carroll on court together in the second unit. And he still likes Utah.

 

[Douchebag K]

The Warriors for sure have a good defense but the run and gun offense and jacking up outside shots doesn't work come playoff time. Teams beat you being tough and methodical in the playoffs.
I see the bigger teams down low winning the west.

You're confusing the warriors with other run & gun teams. They're at the top of the NBA offensively AND defensively, and seem to have every base covered.

If Bogut stays healthy i think the Warriors will crush the west