Only to lose to the Ws a round later?
There is a greater chance of luck helping you out if you have to face them in the Finals than the 2nd or 3rd round.
2016-17 NBA PLAYOFFS THREAD
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There is a greater chance of luck helping you out if you have to face them in the Finals than the 2nd or 3rd round.
The Celtics team constructed with Hayward is going to be much different than the one you just saw lose to the Cavs.
How so? You have to defeat one in conference finals and the other in the finals. All this would do is switch the order in which you play them. A laughable consideration for a career change.
The Warriors could lose to the Spurs, especially if they get Chris Paul or Kyle Lowry. The Warriors have 3 rounds to lose or get injured before you have to face them. You can laugh at that, but it's a legitimate factor. The Eastern Conference is an easier road than the West. And yes, losing in the Finals a few times is a better legacy than never making it to the Finals. Ask Malone/Stockton.
It's not a legitimate factor. It's nonsense. However, him thinking Boston would be the better team is a legitimate consideration.
Seeing how LeBron has performed, I'm now thinking GSW = LeBron. LeBron's dominance equals that whole team.
Moreover, it seems to me LeBron can play at this level for at least 3-4 more years. Whereas Golden State might have to break things up once Luxury Tax starts to bite.
On that basis, I'm not so sure Hayward going to the Celtics is gonna make that much sense to be honest.
If you say so, but I doubt you are right. I'm sure it's a factor.
Cavs will have similar issues. They payed 56 million dollars in luxury tax last year.
elan_prodigy
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Agree with all of this.
I'd rather run into GS than Lebron the way he is playing atm. You are going up against a Top 3 player of ALL TIME while he is playing at his peak. Warriors can't keep that 4 together forever.
elan_prodigy
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Cavs just need to keep Lebron and they will make the Finals.
Cappy_Smurf
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If the Celtics had traded for Butler, then it would be a different story. However, it looks more and more likely that the Celtics will hold on to those picks. Between that and having to max out IT next year, and other players coming due for new contracts, that Boston situation isn't better than Utah right now. Fultz and IT play the same position even. Boston's roster isn't the big step up some people seem to be making it out to be, and won't be without some major moves that don't look likely.
Also, I can't believe anybody is rooting for that gutless wonder KD to get a ring. That's just disgusting.
Also, I can't believe anybody is rooting for that gutless wonder KD to get a ring. That's just disgusting.
Douchebag K
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I really don't think Boston is any kind of step up at all.
And now that the Jazz are out, i'm helping the wife root for her beloved LBJ and the Cavs. We're rooting hard and often for the Cavs to win !
Still can't believe KD jumped on the Warriors bandwagon .. weakest move ever.
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If LeBron takes out gsw it'll be one of his greatest achievements on his resume .
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Fixed.
The Warriors will win. I'd be surprised if it was even a competitive series. The Cavaliers struggle to get stops. Their offense has gotten them to the Finals over average defenses. But it won't be as effective against a top defense. And the Warriors offense will expose every defensive flaw.
That sounds like exactly what everyone said last year too.
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True
Then draymond got suspended and they didn't have durant.
They lost a lot of their size and depth to get Durant though. We played GS tougher than anyone so far. I don't think they're unbeatable. We had them beat Game 3 the whole game until we couldn't score in the second half of the 4th quarter.
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I don't think they are unbeatable for a game either. I do think they are unbeatable in a series though.
I also think that durant >> size and depth. (Especially since they don't really like having size and play better when they are small and don't need much depth due to the fact that they are all young and haven't been challenged/overplayed)
Funny thing is that last year everyone was saying the Cavs had no chance and I was calling everyone dumb for counting out lebron..... yet here I am doing the same thing.
Durant going to a team that is already championship caliber does that to me I guess. I think the durant addition is huge. (For any team but especially the warriors)
#1 offense
#1 defense
#1 most talented team
Adds up to warriors win imo.
We will see if lebron proves everyone wrong again.... this time I don't think he can.
The last five minutes or so of last years NBA finals was some of the worst basketball I've ever seen. For as smart as these teams play they both took a giant dump in crunch time last year. Cavs got luckier. Either team could have won easily by taking smarter shots. Curry was especially an idiot down the stretch.