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I was hoping this might be the season Kyrie finally steps up as a real co-star for Lebron, looks like not yet. (team points per 100 possesions)

Lebron without Kyrie/Love - 160.7 Offense 100.0 Defense
Kyrie/Love without Lebron - 108.0 Offense 132.0 Defense

Obviously small sample size applies (only ~30 minutes for each), but it continues the trend from the last few seasons. Lebron is the Cavs, they are nothing without him.

Why?
 
Harden with four straight games of 30+ points and 10+ assists. I think I read that he's the first player to do that since MJ in 89. Lots of players doing amazing things early this season.

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Minny continue to find ways to lose.


Every time i see Brook Lopez play i wonder why he doesn't average 25/12 and be an all star. Dunno what he does all the other games i don't see him play.
 
Minny continue to find ways to lose.


Every time i see Brook Lopez play i wonder why he doesn't average 25/12 and be an all star. Dunno what he does all the other games i don't see him play.

Yeah no idea how he doesnt average 12 rebounds a game when he hardly ever gets 10 rebounds in a game.
 
When did being a big slow guy make you a good rebounder?

do you really enjoy spending your whole life being argumentative just for the sake of it .. You so consistently just ignore the general point of what someone says just to stir up some **** that you can involve yourself in and puff your chest out about regardless of accuracy. Your act is tired, I'm done with it, it's like bickering with my 10 year old.
 
do you really enjoy spending your whole life being argumentative just for the sake of it .. You so consistently just ignore the general point of what someone says just to stir up some **** that you can involve yourself in and puff your chest out about regardless of accuracy. Your act is tired, I'm done with it, it's like bickering with my 10 year old.

Just saying, there havent been very many dominant rebounders who are built like Lopez.

Brook Lopez, Roy Hibbert, Lamarcus Aldridge, Yao Ming, etc. Huge slow giants don't put up great rebounding numbers. They may be very good rebounders in terms of boxing out and reboudning rate, but they lack the speed to get out of area rebounds and snag the easy uncontested rebounds that really boost the stats. Sorry if I like being honest about basketball and not questioning why Lopez doesnt average 12 rebounds when that would be insane for him to do.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong.. was I not spot on about Dennis Schroder pre-draft??

Just to level out your neediness:

https://jazzfanz.com/showthread.php?51156-George-Hill-coming-to-Utah/page4&p=1244857#post1244857

ALso: Cleveland with a collective off-night against Atlanta. The Hawks accuracy doesn't reflect their shot selection and the Cavs 3p% was a result of many open or semi-contested 3s being missed by usually good shooters. Hawks played hard though and deserved it considering the circumstances.

Another thing I really hate and saw twice tonight is how the rules are concering injured players. I think they're the same in NBA and FIBA.
When Gorgui Dieng landed on Whitehead's face, he knew that he didn't land on the floor. Why not signal that something happened?
Ppl always talk about how sports should teach kids real life ethics and stuff. Maybe the ethics in America are vastly different, but in Germany you're obliged to reach someone in trouble a helping hand to the best of your ability. When Dieng causes the potential injury himself and knows something didn't feel right, I think it's ****ed up to not even look at the guy you just stepped on and signal the referee immediately that something could've happened.

Similar thing happened to Muscala who fell on his back after a put back. Those falls can result in heavy injuries. But the rules stating that play is interrupted when your team has possession or when the referees decides to initate it. It's really weird to me.
 
Just to level out your neediness:

https://jazzfanz.com/showthread.php?51156-George-Hill-coming-to-Utah/page4&p=1244857#post1244857

ALso: Cleveland with a collective off-night against Atlanta. The Hawks accuracy doesn't reflect their shot selection and the Cavs 3p% was a result of many open or semi-contested 3s being missed by usually good shooters. Hawks played hard though and deserved it considering the circumstances.

Another thing I really hate and saw twice tonight is how the rules are concering injured players. I think they're the same in NBA and FIBA.
When Gorgui Dieng landed on Whitehead's face, he knew that he didn't land on the floor. Why not signal that something happened?
Ppl always talk about how sports should teach kids real life ethics and stuff. Maybe the ethics in America are vastly different, but in Germany you're obliged to reach someone in trouble a helping hand to the best of your ability. When Dieng causes the potential injury himself and knows something didn't feel right, I think it's ****ed up to not even look at the guy you just stepped on and signal the referee immediately that something could've happened.

Similar thing happened to Muscala who fell on his back after a put back. Those falls can result in heavy injuries. But the rules stating that play is interrupted when your team has possession or when the referees decides to initate it. It's really weird to me.

Dieng should have said something, but there was something worse than that. The Nets were about to inbound the ball with Whitehead lying on the floor. The REF WHO STOOD LESS THAN 5 FEET AWAY FROM ALL THIS DID NOTHING. ALL HE DID WAS LOOKING AROUND AT THE NETS BENCH TO SEE IF THE COACH WOULD CALL A TIME OUT. THE NETS COACH FINALLY CALLED A 20 SECOND TIMEOUT AT WHICH TIME THEY ALL RUSHED TO SEE IF HE WAS OK.


Why was there no protocol for the Ref to step in at this point considering it's potentially a serious head/concussion injury. Surely this is WAYYYY more important than whether or not the Nets would burn a timeout to see if the player was OK.


The NBA cannot rely on players like Dieng to do the right thing, but they can set up a process in which the REF CAN STEP IN WHEN THEY SEE IT AND DO THE RIGHT THING.


I was actually quite angry about all this when I first saw it. SERIOUS INJURIES SHOULD NOT TAKE A SECOND SEAT TO THE OUTCOME OF THE GAME OR A SIMPLE TIMEOUT CALL.
 
BTW [MENTION=2500]BTP[/MENTION], I'm impressed you watch so many non-Jazz games even though it must be early hours in the morning German time.
 
BTW [MENTION=2500]BTP[/MENTION], I'm impressed you watch so many non-Jazz games even though it must be early hours in the morning German time.

I don't watch all Jazz games. I think I watch roughly 60% of em. The rest only in condensed highlights. Depends on what's happening. I was just interested in the election yesterday night and Hawks Cavs played at the same time. So why not connect the two?
 
I don't watch all Jazz games. I think I watch roughly 60% of em. The rest only in condensed highlights. Depends on what's happening. I was just interested in the election yesterday night and Hawks Cavs played at the same time. So why not connect the two?

OH ok, I see, that make sense.. Hahaha...
 
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