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[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

How long has twork been OTC for

 

[Elizah Huge]

With Harden on the floor the opposing team had a 110 rating and with him off a 106.

What a horrible player.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

As far as per game averages they are and again who does Drummond have on his team? I know for damn sure it isn't anyone near Paul or Griffin.

But his team sucks so much that they are 10 points better on defense WITHOUT him?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

How long has twork been OTC for

we don't count time during when normal people should be asleep.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

With Harden on the floor the opposing team had a 110 rating and with him off a 106.

What a horrible player.

Yeah, -4 isn't a terrible difference and he more than makes up for it in what he provides on offense.

Drummond is a negative on both offense and defense. Keep trying.

 

[RandyForRubio]

I don't care. Just goes to show how stupid that stat is.

Or that players can improve.

Shocking.

 

[Thee Idiotic Minivan K]

we don't count time during when normal people should be asleep.

I know that. Just wondering how long

 

[Elizah Huge]

Or that players can improve.

Shocking.

Weird. Maybe Drummond can improve?

 

[Elizah Huge]

Yeah, -4 isn't a terrible difference and he more than makes up for it in what he provides on offense.

Drummond is a negative on both offense and defense. Keep trying.

Again we're arguing someone who went in the 50's vs. someone who went in the 20's. Have you seen the Pistons roster?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Weird. Maybe Drummond can improve?

Maybe, but he just showed regression. It's hard to sell improvement when he got worse the moment he signed his big contract extension.

 

[RandyForRubio]

With Harden on the floor the opposing team had a 110 rating and with him off a 106.

What a horrible player.

Well, yeah. That indicates the stat works pretty well. Harden isn't known for his defensive prowess.

 

[RandyForRubio]

Weird. Maybe Drummond can improve?

Maybe. He's been getting worse though.

 

[RandyForRubio]

Again we're arguing someone who went in the 50's vs. someone who went in the 20's. Have you seen the Pistons roster?

Again, you're the one saying they're essentially the same player.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Maybe, but he just showed regression. It's hard to sell improvement when he got worse the moment he signed his big contract extension.

Again, I think getting a player who has the most double-doubles in the league for the past 3 years to pair up with Curry/Thompson is pretty damn nice.

He won't be the first or second option and possibly even third.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Again we're arguing someone who went in the 50's vs. someone who went in the 20's. Have you seen the Pistons roster?

The Pistons roster isn't that bad. They just underachieved, mainly because of Drummond. They were a great defensive team when he was off the floor.

The Pistons had a better defensive rating w/ Drummond off the floor than the Jazz had w/ Gobert on the floor. Don't tell me how Drummond's teammates held him back from being a good defender.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Again, you're the one saying they're essentially the same player.

I think Drummond would put up the same if not better stats if you replaced Jordan with him.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Again, I think getting a player who has the most double-doubles in the league for the past 3 years to pair up with Curry/Thompson is pretty damn nice.

He won't be the first or second option and possibly even third.

Yeah, but he will make everyone else worse on the court.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I think Drummond would put up the same if not better stats if you replaced Jordan with him.

CP3 would scream at him for missing rotations and wouldn't play into Drummond's desire to post-up, which would leave Drummond being pissy and trying even less.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Two years ago Drummond was +3.7 on offense and +3.6 on defense for a total of +7.3. There is reason to believe he will improve.

 

[Ron Mexico]

CP3 would scream at him for missing rotations and wouldn't play into Drummond's desire to post-up, which would leave Drummond being pissy and trying even less.

I guess he would have to treat him like he does DeAndre. Constantly telling him what to do.