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2019 Trade Deadline Discussion

Saint Cy of JFC said:
How do you think these guys get sources?

They do it by putting out select information from agents/players/inner circle members.

For instance, Chris Haynes is very connected to Klutch Sports. There have been a lot of instances throughout his career when you can see that he is being mouthpiece for Rich Paul.

Woj is obviously connected to Boston a bit and has been helping Ainge get his message out as well.

It isn't wish casting, its how these guys do their jobs and create their sources.
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It’s all posturing... NO knows LA will throw the mega offer but LA was trying to get them to bite now. You can tell which messages come from which camps.

The thing I laugh about is the 4 first round picks is seen as crazy... NO is asking for ten dimes to make up for the dollar they are giving up... it’s fair imo. Collusion, Lakers premium, GTFO Lakers fans... they are asking for a fair price to swap your middling assets for a super duper star. If they had developed those guys maybe they wouldn’t be in this place right now.
 
Sataronsky or whatever isn't being traded, he's one of the few good young players WA has. Plus they won't make a big move because that's their MO.

My guess is AD isn't traded to LA unless Kawhi doesn't resign in Toronto. If PG and Kawhi show that trading for a star that's rumored to go to LA is actually a better way to get and keep them, then of course they send him to Boston if they include Tatum. LA's deal will still be available on draft day.

Really hoping for a responsible Conley deal.

I'd definitely rather have Saric over Mirotic, I'd toss in any combo of our pick, non Favors expirings, and non essential pieces like Thabo, Allen, maybe O'Neale.

I'd give my left walnut for Kuzma.
 
Bawse Dawg said:
If we get Conley and keep Exum and Favors I'll be thrilled.

And it sounds like we've made our final offer and neither of them is included.

So it either happens or it doesn't, looks like Detroit and Utah have set the market for him. We'll see who blinks first.
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I think we are being smart and not overpaying here... he’s a flawed good asset with a very limited market. So here is our price take it or leave it.

If they are dumb enough to just keep him then his value likely decreases. We could also move on to different deals. Good luck.
 
campaignist said:
Sataronsky or whatever isn't being traded, he's one of the few good young players WA has. Plus they won't make a big move because that's their MO.

My guess is AD isn't traded to LA unless Kawhi doesn't resign in Toronto. If PG and Kawhi show that trading for a star that's rumored to go to LA is actually a better way to get and keep them, then of course they send him to Boston if they include Tatum. LA's deal will still be available on draft day.

Really hoping for a responsible Conley deal.

I'd definitely rather have Saric over Mirotic, I'd toss in any combo of our pick, non Favors expirings, and non essential pieces like Thabo, Allen, maybe O'Neale.

I'd give my left walnut for Kuzma.
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Tomas is a good FA target if we move on from Ricky. They will be hard pressed to keep him unless they move other salary.

Thank god we aren’t the Wiz.
 
LoPo said:
If we could send Grayson and 2 1st rounders for Kuzma, I would do it.
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That is a lot... I guess I need to watch Kuz more to figure out what the big deal is because I think of him as a decent rotation player. Three first is a lot for someone I don't really think of as a real difference maker. I would rather look at Saric (who is only a year older). I think the Jazz have a system that could really unlock him (like he was in Europe).
 
I love the idea of NO trusting Ainge to make a big offer, but that he hasn’t dangled Tatums name... gonna laugh when he offers Hayward and a second to start the actual negotiations this summer.

Get the firsts from NO with Ingram Kuzma and Ball and don’t deal with Danny... dude is a snake.
 
checkbookdoc said:
That is a lot... I guess I need to watch Kuz more to figure out what the big deal is because I think of him as a decent rotation player. Three first is a lot for someone I don't really think of as a real difference maker. I would rather look at Saric (who is only a year older). I think the Jazz have a system that could really unlock him (like he was in Europe).
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I wish he was a little better shooter but I think this is right. Kuzma has some extra hype that isn’t fully warranted for his inefficient production... Saric the shine has come off a bit but he’d be such a good fit.
 
How's Dario's D? What do we see him doing in our system? I see him being more like a Favors (not in skill comparison) where he gives us solid minutes, is reliable, occasionally comes up big, but sometimes is just out there.
 
infection said:
How's Dario's D? What do we see him doing in our system? I see him being more like a Favors (not in skill comparison) where he gives us solid minutes, is reliable, occasionally comes up big, but sometimes is just out there.
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He's definitely limited as a defender, but it isn't for a lack of effort. I see him being like Kyle Korver, and I don't think it will kill the Jazz. Saric is basically a younger, cheaper version of Mirotic in my mind. He was definitely a big part of what Philly was able to do last season, and I think there's elite stretch 4 potential there.
 
infection said:
How's Dario's D? What do we see him doing in our system? I see him being more like a Favors (not in skill comparison) where he gives us solid minutes, is reliable, occasionally comes up big, but sometimes is just out there.
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15/7/3 as a starter in his career. Can create a little. Like the power forward version of Joe Ingles maybe. Best as a super role player, but may be able to ramp it up a bit if he needs to. Defense is okay.

Also he has 2 great nicknames... The Homie and Super Dario... just fantastic.
 
Maybe we do a Conley deal with Exum and a 1st then send Favs to Minny with Grayson and take back Saric and Dieng (contract is awful, but he's a solid backup).

Maybe Crowder and a pick for Saric and Tolliver... if we are looking to open more cap space that'd do it.
 
Ricky and a 1st for Teague and Saric... come on it'd be kinda funny. Is Teague terrible now? Maybe use him more as a 3rd guard... I'm spit-balling here. I think Snyder would have worked with him... so he'd have some thoughts. If we got him I'd assume that we get an better version of him than he's shown this year.
 
I think Dario would make the other players better (liked the Joe Ingles comp for that reason). I also love that he takes a lot of 3's above the break. Seems like overall he would be a good contributor. Financially, I love that Dario is restricted and when this contract is up will have a low cap hold. Seems like he would provide some good flexibility.

I would definitely give up a 1st for him, but I wonder what player they want. Would they take Allen, Bradley & 1st? Could/would we do Allen + Favors + 1st for Dario + Dieng + Okogie (hurts cap this summer)?
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Ricky and a 1st for Teague and Saric... come on it'd be kinda funny. Is Teague terrible now? Maybe use him more as a 3rd guard... I'm spit-balling here. I think Snyder would have worked with him... so he'd have some thoughts. If we got him I'd assume that we get an better version of him than he's shown this year.
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Teague isn’t terrible but has fallen off a bit and probably continue to do so.
 
Read some article about the Grizz and their rebuilding efforts now... I know Reggie Jackson isn't the worst basketball player ever, but I really wouldn't want that guy around the young players if I was re-building. Just a thought.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
Teague isn’t terrible but has fallen off a bit and probably continue to do so.
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I think he has been hurt... also Minny has a way of making players indifferent to basketball. I'd rather have him than Dieng for sure.
 
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