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2019 Trade Deadline Discussion

LoPo said:
"multiple league sources expect the agent and star to soon deliver word throughout the league that Davis’ preferred destination is the Lakers and he’ll become a rental player until 2020 with a trade anywhere else."
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I'm not sure how NBA Owners are going to counteract situations like this and situations like Kawhi sitting out a year - but I do expect this trend to eventually lead to the mother of all lock-outs when the current CBA is up.
 
Engorged On Unborn Gore said:
Here is a man who understands where our upgrade needs to be: at the 4. Not at the 1.
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We don't need a position upgrade. We need an offensive upgrade. Doesn't matter if it comes at PG, SG (moving DM to PG and adding a SG), SF or PF. We need offense. More specifically a guy who can CREATE his own offense.

Jae is just fine as our 4 if we upgrade elsewhere. He's a part of several of our most successful lineups this season. Including our most successful lineup period.
 
stitches said:
The Dunc'd on podcast started their Mock Trade Deadline episodes. You can find the first episode here:

http://nateduncannba.com/podcast-episodes/mock-trade-deadline-2019-part-1-ad-conley-gasol/

In this one they traded AD to NYK for Porzingis, their 1st round pick 2019(top 1 protected) + stuff

They also traded Mike Conley to the Jazz for Ricky Rubio, Dante Exum, Grayson Allen and 2019 1st round pick(top 4 protected)

Marc Gasol went to Charlotte for protected 1st + taking on MKG and Biyombo
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That's way too much for Conley but I do like the trade for NY.

If I'm Charlotte, I take that deal and run. Way too little for Memphis. Dumping Biyombo and MKG is worth their 1st much less getting Gasol.

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LoPo said:
That's way too much for Conley but I do like the trade for NY.

If I'm Charlotte, I take that deal and run. Way too little for Memphis. Dumping Biyombo and MKG is worth their 1st much less getting Gasol.

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Part of the Conley convo has to include the fact that Ricky is good and will get much less this offseason. The upgrade to Conley isn't worth a first, Allen, and giving up on the FA opportunity. Exum doesn't likely have much value, so I don't care that much about his inclusion.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Part of the Conley convo has to include the fact that Ricky is good and will get much less this offseason. The upgrade to Conley isn't worth a first, Allen, and giving up on the FA opportunity. Exum doesn't likely have much value, so I don't care that much about his inclusion.
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The difference in money is only relevant if you think we have a chance at getting someone better than Conley with the money we are saving. In two years our capspace will evaporate. It's use it or lose it situation when we have to pay Mitchell and Gobert.
 
stitches said:
The difference in money is only relevant if you think we have a chance at getting someone better than Conley with the money we are saving. In two years our capspace will evaporate. It's use it or lose it situation when we have to pay Mitchell and Gobert.
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I get that for sure. I’d just rather see what FA has and give Ricky a one year overpay and opt in on Favs... is punt two FA periods (I guess) if that is all it meant but I’m not punting two FA periods, a pick, and two prospects.

I think there is a shot that Ricky is better over the next two years than Conley. Health, minutes, age could catch up fast on Mike. I’d almost rather lick Ricky into a cheap 3-4 year deal if we could... I just don’t see it as a huuuuuuge upgrade.
 
We gotta go get Mirotic. NOLA has to shed players to make roster spots for the impending Laker deal. KCP has a no trade clause and he reportedly won't accept a trade to NOLA.

So to get AD, the Lakers will have to send a number of small contracts (Lonzo, Kuzma, Ingram, Zubac and guys like Beasley, Stephenson, Wagner). NBA rules state you have to have a roster spot for every player accepted.

https://www.nola.com/pelicans/2019/...-available-for-picks-over-weekend-report.html

“Over the weekend, I had heard from two separate teams that Mirotic, Randle and Moore had all been made available for picks," Lowe said.

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stitches said:
The Dunc'd on podcast started their Mock Trade Deadline episodes. You can find the first episode here:

http://nateduncannba.com/podcast-episodes/mock-trade-deadline-2019-part-1-ad-conley-gasol/

In this one they traded AD to NYK for Porzingis, their 1st round pick 2019(top 1 protected) + stuff

They also traded Mike Conley to the Jazz for Ricky Rubio, Dante Exum, Grayson Allen and 2019 1st round pick(top 4 protected)

Marc Gasol went to Charlotte for protected 1st + taking on MKG and Biyombo
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That's a steep price for an overpaid Conley.

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Jazz include 4 first round picks.
 
In the mock trade deadline podcast, Danny Leroux acting as Jazz GM said the Jazz would be more interested in Jrue and asked Kevin Pelton (acting as NOP GM) for a trade, but he was quickly shut down lol. Makes sense that NOP wants to stay relevant and retool around Jrue plus whatever assets they get. I honestly think I'd rather take that Knicks offer than what Boston will realistically offer. Porzingis+top 5 pick has a good chance of being better than Tatum and a Memphis pick or something. If nothing else, it'll drive up the offer that Boston has to make.
 
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I honestly think I'd rather take that Knicks offer than what Boston will realistically offer. Porzingis+top 5 pick has a good chance of being better than Tatum and a Memphis pick or something. If nothing else, it'll drive up the offer that Boston has to make.
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People talk all the time about how you can't send 4 quarters for dollar. If we are talking about Kuzma, Lonzo, Ingram, Tatum and Porzingis, I think Porzingis is the closest thing to a dollar followed closely by Tatum. If you also consider that NOLA could also get Zion or RJ Barrett too, I don't know why the Pelicans are even thinking about an offer from LA or Boston. LA can't send a lottery pick and Boston can't send a pick inside the top 10 until maybe 2021 (Memphis).

Porzingis, Hardaway, C. Lee, and NY's 2019 unprotected 1st
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AD and Wesley Johnson
 
LoPo said:
We gotta go get Mirotic. NOLA has to shed players to make roster spots for the impending Laker deal. KCP has a no trade clause and he reportedly won't accept a trade to NOLA.

So to get AD, the Lakers will have to send a number of small contracts (Lonzo, Kuzma, Ingram, Zubac and guys like Beasley, Stephenson, Wagner). NBA rules state you have to have a roster spot for every player accepted.

https://www.nola.com/pelicans/2019/...-available-for-picks-over-weekend-report.html

“Over the weekend, I had heard from two separate teams that Mirotic, Randle and Moore had all been made available for picks," Lowe said.

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The only issue I have is Favs would likely have to go for Niko. Favs as a backup 5 has been awesome. If you could talk him into backup duty so you could start Niko (finish with Crowder when defense is more important) that'd be great... but then you have a couple/few guys competing and auditioning for the spot next year. Guys playing for serious money and time didn't go well for Niko last time around...

If he was healthy it'd be another thing I guess, but if we got Niko I'd also want to address backup center.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
The only issue I have is Favs would likely have to go for Niko. Favs as a backup 5 has been awesome. If you could talk him into backup duty so you could start Niko (finish with Crowder when defense is more important) that'd be great... but then you have a couple/few guys competing and auditioning for the spot next year. Guys playing for serious money and time didn't go well for Niko last time around...

If he was healthy it'd be another thing I guess, but if we got Niko I'd also want to address backup center.
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If Favors loves being here and loves being a member of this organization and wants to be part of winning a title here, he should accept the role. He has only averaged 15 minutes per game the last 9 2nd round playoff games. He is such an asset, but mainly as a backup to Gobert once we play the great teams.

If he wasn't making above market value for a guy playing less than 24mpg, I would feel for him. However, we paid him quite well this summer. So if we get Mirotic to provide the much needed floor spacer, then Favors can accept a few less minutes per game. And we could rest Gobert more as we get closer to the playoffs.

I really think we can get Mirotic for Thabo and a combination of Udoh, Niang, Bradley and even Neto. Add in a couple 2nd rounders, and I think NOLA would bite. They are probably holding out for a 1st, but who is sending that for an injured expiring PF?
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
If he was healthy it'd be another thing I guess, but if we got Niko I'd also want to address backup center.
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I'd hope that Bradley will be ready for that role next year. If not, then trade for a developmental prospect like Thon that can play 15-18 MPG behind Rudy. Losing Favors is going to really hurt our bench unit, and I'm with you, we need a good replacement.
 
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