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Beer said:
What are your thoughts on Kamala? Take out the fact she is a minority women making her beyond reproach for some, but what are your thoughts on her record, her policies, her platform, etc ....

For example, talked to a woman today who really likes her but all she could point out is apparently Kamala supports planned parenthood, which is good, but that's about all she could give me as to why she liked her.
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She's been very Clintonesque in the policies and her record, from what I can tell I would have liked someone more progressive.

OTOH, as The Reverend Crip Dyke puts it, that's who she had to be to be elected when she was:

freethoughtblogs.com

Senator Harris and the no good, terrible … yeah, whatever.

There are a lot of articles and even lists (and, yes, listicles) about Senator Kamala Harris’ worst actions and decisions, primarily as a prosecutor in San Francisco and the Attorney General …
freethoughtblogs.com
 
One Brow said:
She's been very Clintonesque in the policies and her record, from what I can tell I would have liked someone more progressive.

OTOH, as The Reverend Crip Dyke puts it, that's who she had to be to be elected when she was:

freethoughtblogs.com

Senator Harris and the no good, terrible … yeah, whatever.

There are a lot of articles and even lists (and, yes, listicles) about Senator Kamala Harris’ worst actions and decisions, primarily as a prosecutor in San Francisco and the Attorney General …
freethoughtblogs.com
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Appreciate it. Like I said I've heard almost nothing positive about her other than her race and sex, next to nothing about her policies. I'm open to the idea of her not being the worst but am having trouble finding anything that doesn't focus on her being a minority woman, which is not important to me.

Also, I keep getting an error when I try to read the article you linked so hopefully I'll be able to access it at some point.
 
One Brow said:
She's been very Clintonesque in the policies and her record, from what I can tell I would have liked someone more progressive.

OTOH, as The Reverend Crip Dyke puts it, that's who she had to be to be elected when she was:

freethoughtblogs.com

Senator Harris and the no good, terrible … yeah, whatever.

There are a lot of articles and even lists (and, yes, listicles) about Senator Kamala Harris’ worst actions and decisions, primarily as a prosecutor in San Francisco and the Attorney General …
freethoughtblogs.com
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Lol, the article finally opened. And it basically says, "Sure, she's been pretty terrible, but as a woman of color things are harder for her so you can't really blame her. Plus she's a woman and that's very important, oh yeah, she's also a person of color and that is also super vital. So disregard the fact she's been awful because she's a woman of color and that's what's really important."

The closing paragraph is great

"You may hate it. I don’t like it, but the USA is so ****ed up that electing this Black/Indian Californian prosecutor who defended bad crime labs and opposed basic health care is actually a really, really, really good ****ing thing for the country. Even I’m not white enough to miss that."

I guess the main point is "She's a sleazy awful terrible disgusting politician but at least she's a woman of color so we'll take what we can get." Is that the main point or am I missing something?
 
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Red said:
His followers feel being a miserable and rotten SOB is a sign of strength!
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It should be noted that the converse of this is also very true of Trump, and apparently many of his followers. A man who shows compassion, a man who cares about other human beings, and shows these qualities, is regarded as weak. For Trump, to show compassion or concern for others is a sign of great weakness. If you listen to Trump, on the few occasions when he is making an effort to display these emotions, he always speaks in a stilted and monotone style. Compassion, caring for other human beings, is foreign to Trump. It will never be something that comes naturally. Precisely because he regards such emotions as signs of a weak man. This attitude, IMO, is itself a serious character defect.

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Beer said:
I guess the main point is "She's a sleazy awful terrible disgusting politician but at least she's a woman of color so we'll take what we can get." Is that the main point or am I missing something?
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I'm not sure about the "sleazy" part, but the rest is pretty true. You could say the same about Obama (again, minus the "sleazy").
 
Beer said:
It was an open question to anyone. @Gameface @NAOS @One Brow @The Thriller or anyone else at all.

1. Supporting planned parenthood I like
2. Says she is against death penalty I like, although her actions don't really make that clear considering she is doing everything she can to keep an obviously exonerated man on death row.

So she gets 1.5 points so far.
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From a progressive perspective she has a mixed record, at best.
 
Beer said:
Appreciate it. Like I said I've heard almost nothing positive about her other than her race and sex, next to nothing about her policies. I'm open to the idea of her not being the worst but am having trouble finding anything that doesn't focus on her being a minority woman, which is not important to me.

Also, I keep getting an error when I try to read the article you linked so hopefully I'll be able to access it at some point.
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lol you’re clearly not looking very hard/far. This appears to be a regular problem for you.
 
Red said:
It should be noted that the converse of this is also very true of Trump, and apparently many of his followers. A man who shows compassion, a man who cares about other human beings, and shows these qualities, is regarded as weak. For Trump, to show compassion or concern for others is a sign of great weakness. If you listen to Trump, on the few occasions when he is making an effort to display these emotions, he always speaks in a stilted and monotone style. Compassion, caring for other human beings, is foreign to Trump. It will never be something that comes naturally. Precisely because he regards such emotions as signs of a weak man. This attitude, IMO, is itself a serious character defect.

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The last part, "weak man's idea of a strong man" resonates the most with me. Specifically with him constantly comparing himself to Obama or Clinton or whoever. The daily tweets of "Obama couldn't do this" or "unlike me, Obama never blah blah blah" is textbook beta male ******** inferiority.

Trump is a living cautionary tale to fathers - don't bully your children.
 
candrew said:
The last part, "weak man's idea of a strong man" resonates the most with me. Specifically with him constantly comparing himself to Obama or Clinton or whoever. The daily tweets of "Obama couldn't do this" or "unlike me, Obama never blah blah blah" is textbook beta male ******** inferiority.

Trump is a living cautionary tale to fathers - don't bully your children.
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Yeah, but to be fair, he did become president.
 
Political Jazz Fan said:
Typical Democrat. No new ideas. Just recycling the old ones.
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Trump didn't make any progress on any of these things either.

To me this is simply an indictment of the 2-party system. Get elected, do just enough to get elected again. Results don't matter, votes do.
 
Things are SO bad under Trump, full blown American Carnage, that only he can fix them.

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Gameface said:
Her daughter is seeking emancipation. George also said he'll be away from twitter for a while.

Maybe it is mission accomplished for the Conway family? Trump looking to get beat pretty bad.
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Seems like if you are around trump enough you end up not liking him.
Even hannity called trump bat **** crazy.



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