2020 Presidential election
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The Thriller
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So Ari wants to keep Democrats scared, which is fine. But here’s the truth, even using RCP, one can see far more movement in the 2016 cycle while 2020 has been pretty static.
Clinton at this time 4 years ago saw her best polls. It was artificially pumped up because of the access Hollywood tape. But then it returned to be close (within the MOE). And then she failed to campaign there, moving resources to Arizona and Georgia.
Meanwhile, just in Michigan, Biden has maintained a lead of at least 5 pts (begins the MOE) since the spring. Furthermore, Trump isn’t even advertising in Michigan, which indicates that he’s already waving the white flag.
Trump is having to exhaust resources just to keep Texas. That’s not a good sign.
The Thriller
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We definitely have got to show up and win. But I don’t think we should be so scared of a 2016 repeat. It was such an outlier. From russian disinformation, to Clinton and Comey, to Trump getting help from wiki, To 3rd party candidates, etc. Harry Reid recruited Obama back in 2007 to run because he knew Clinton’s likability was an issue. Democrats tried to force it in 2015-2016 and it bit them.
The Thriller
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that’s not a good trend for donald, especially with all the early voting.
This really doomed Clinton. She never could fix her likability.
What about the abortion(s) he has been involved in?
candrew
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So that uproar about government funded stem cell research a few years back was just for laughs?
Yeah, who knows how many times his mother tried?
NAOS
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He probably isn’t coming back by the rules. I agree.
NAOS
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I think it’s more than keeping Democrats scared. But I agree that the important numbers look good RIGHT NOW.
Red
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I think those early voters in Georgia yesterday, willing to wait up to 11 hours(!) to vote, were mostly Biden supporters. At least the ones I saw interviewed were. One woman said she did not care how long the line was. She wanted to get it over with, and then she said “I’m voting as if my life depended on it”, an obvious Democratic punch line.
Red
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Doctors Have Questions About The Test Used To Get Trump’s Negative COVID-19 Result
Trump’s doctor cited a rapid test as a key factor in determining that he is “not infectious,” but the CDC does not recommend using such tests to clear sick patients from isolating.
www.buzzfeednews.com
Abbott’s BinaxNow test has a sensitivity rate of 97.1%, according to the company, meaning it will return false-negative results for about 3% of people who are infected and should have tested positive. The company also recommends that in patients who are beyond a week from when their symptoms started, negative results “should be treated as presumptive” and confirmed with a PCR test. “Negative results do not rule out SARS-CoV-2 infection and should not be used as the sole basis for treatment or patient management decisions, including infection control decisions,” company documents state.
JazzyFresh
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Wow lol what an embarrassing last few pages of triggered idiocy. ****ing embarrassing... Anyway I wasn't too sold on Barrett but she was by far the most intelligent person in all of these hearings. It's crazy, Democrats are a really sexist and racist group to anyone who they disagree with. Lol at idiot(like her followers) from Hawaii bringing up if Barrett had any sexual allegations.
But hey you morons are triggered that Democrats are scared. Lol fear mongering all of the time, all while your idiot candidate thinks he running for senate and can't even remember who "The Mormon Guy" Mitt Romney is. Not a word from you sheep.
But hey you morons are triggered that Democrats are scared. Lol fear mongering all of the time, all while your idiot candidate thinks he running for senate and can't even remember who "The Mormon Guy" Mitt Romney is. Not a word from you sheep.
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JazzyFresh
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I mean, the guy couldn't even remember who he and Obama ran against... Im not trying to be a dick but how does he not remember Mitts name? It's cognitive decline and that's just being honest. It's not a hit at him as we've all seen it happen to people we love.
candrew
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And it's pretty funny to see Donald realize what a political mistake he made a few days ago and now backtrack.
Trump slams door on relief package but asks for new $1,200 stimulus checks
Pelosi dismisses Trump’s proposal: "All the president wants is his name on a check."www.nbcnews.com
If you weren't such a dishonest person, you'd recognize that the blame should be placed squarely on the president and Senate Republicans. Instead, you blame Pelosi...
- Senate Republicans have questioned the need for additional stimulus since May. They've sat on passing the House's bill since May. They've ignored Pelosi's negotiations to trim her originally passed stimulus. All to the detriment of the country.
- Senate Republicans recognize that Trump is going to lose and have focused on judicial nominees. It actually appears like McConnell is repeating his 2008 playbook by making the economy worse in an attempt to kill Biden's presidency early.
- Trump, as usual, doesn't know what the **** is going on and changes positions on nearly an hourly basis.
LOL
I get it, being a poorly informed and dishonest partisan is your thing. But come on, the facts are the facts. Read the links I posted. It's pretty obvious which side has been dragging their feet. Which side doesn't want to "give in" to supporting American workers. It's not surprising, Republicans are always for socialism if it means giving handouts to corporations and campaign donors. It's only when money goes to workers that they drag their feet to giving away money.
And btw, please don't double down. Just admit that you were wrong on the facts. It's so old for Trumpers to double down on their stupidity.
Pelosi passing up this offer is a huge mistake. No stimulus deal now means you certainly won't see anything until February at the earliest. And if the republicans maintain control of the senate you can be sure they'll triple down on their austerity rhetoric with Biden in the White House.
Yeah, Trump is forcing this deal and the republicans in Congress are not dealing in good faith - what else is new? Then accept it and let them be the bad guys.
This all comes down to her not wanting give the appearance that she's caving which will give Trump a win this close to the election - but she's doing so at the expense of millions of Americans citizens and American businesses that are about to go down the *****er.
The Thriller
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What deal is Pelosi refusing? What offer?
It just goes to show how awful our media is in this country when Pelosi passed a stimulus bill in May. The Senate sat on it until just a week ago. The Senate offers a paltry bill that even Trump admits is too small... granted, Trump the squirrel doesn’t know what he wants so he can’t make up his mind whether to continue negotiations or not. So in two days he tweets contradictory answers several times... Leadership!
And the media blames Pelosi for it and people fall for it. Boy they want a horse race this election don’t they? The poor state of our democracy really is the result of the media doing a horrendous job of informing the public. The road to authoritarianism is paved by intellectuals and media members who enable misinformation.
It’s Amazing.
What exactly is the party in power doing to help average Americans during this pandemic? Holding maskless rallies in Florida and judicial hearings in DC where the nominee refuses to answer questions on whether the president can delay an election? That’s what the poor working class people of this pandemic stricken country want? What prevents the Senate from delaying judicial hearings right now? If the stimulus was so important, why not pass it now and do the judicial hearings in the lame duck? Oh yeah, cuz Donald was 9 judges in the event he challenges the legitimacy of the election! Exactly what the covid stricken country wants and needs right now, right?
This is silly. We should be blasting the senate and White House for not passing the stimulus bill that the House passed in May. They had all summer to do it. Instead, senators have openly questioned even the need for additional spending (cited in My post you quoted). How is this on Pelosi and the House? Who the **** controls the Senate and White House?
“Siri, what is leadership?”
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The Thriller
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If Democrats win the White House but Fail to take the senate and Mitch refuses to pass any stimulus, why Shouldn’t he be seen as the villain here? The House and executive would be in support of a stimulus but not the senate. Annnnddd that would be on Pelosi not McConnell??? I get that the media will probably portray is that way. But caving to mcconnell just continues to shift the Overton window to the right.
I’d rather just take the White House and a senate, blow up the filibuster, and stimulate the **** out of the economy in 2021. Republicans can go back to the backseat and pretend to care about fiscal discipline for the foreseeable future.
The Thriller
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This is powerful
The Thriller
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Clearly, this is on Pelosi. She needs to get her **** together... /s