2020 Presidential election

[The Thriller]

I wouldn’t be very confident that Donald is going to win even 200 EC votes this year. Large turnout favors Democrats, not Republicans. That’s why republicans are trying so hard to suppress the vote.

As Dave Wasserman has indicated this week, you’re not seeing blue districts turn against Democrats as they did against Hillary in 2016.

Historic turnout combined with Trump’s erosion of support from senior citizens and college educated women spells trouble for President T.



I think the better question is, will Trump supporters support a peaceful transition of power once Biden wins? Or are they going to continue to “liberate” us as they’ve done to the governor of Michigan and Dr Dunn here in Utah?

 

[fishonjazz]

Oh give me a break. You've made fun of Trump supporters plenty of times, so don't give me this holier than though crap.

And voting for Biden when you want the country opened up more than it currently is like kicking yourself in the nuts everyday for the next four years. If there is one thing that the winner of the race will actually impact, it's the covid lockdown policies. That's by far the most important factor that will swing the election this year. It's not about voting for a narcissist vs a senile old man. It's about lockdown vs no lockdown.

Republicans let states decide how to handle the matter. So if the liberal states want to keep locking down their citizens, they will be able to. But if Biden wins, they will force nationwide lockdowns, even for states like Wyoming and Utah.

I make fun of trump and individual posters on jazzfanz like jazzy fresh. I think plenty of people are going to vote for trump that are great people. In fact I know many awesome people who I love who are voting for trump.

As for Biden shutting down the economy how do you know this to be fact? What does Biden gain from shutting down the economy.
Is shutting or not shutting down the economy during the pandemic the only reason a person should vote for a candidate these days?

I looked at many aspects of the 2 candidates to make my decision.

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[fishonjazz]

Make me happy? Not really.

Good answer. I would hope not.
I don't want trump voters to lose their minds if Biden wins. Quite the opposite. I hope they are calm and ok. I like my country. People losing their minds would be bad for my country.

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[Red]

But if Biden wins, they will force nationwide lockdowns, even for states like Wyoming and Utah.

I think you will see the kind of reaction evidenced by these residents of Idaho. I think it’s bound to be a further fracturing. Which sucks, but I think the civil strife worsens if Biden wins. But from my view, Trump must lose. First things first. It’s been building, it won’t all be on Trump, but if he’s still barking on the sidelines. Interesting fracturing. People who believe things like masks in a pandemic is only one for all and all for one, an approach the so-called greatest generation understood and embodied, and people who think the government is taking their freedom away. To me, the latter might represent the conspiracy generation:

 

[fishonjazz]

One thing i find interesting is that posters like magic will talk with such certainty that Biden will shut everything down even though there is no evidence that he will.... While at the same time pointing out all these places that are shut down right now while trump is currently the president.
To recap: There is no evidence that things will be shut down under biden, yet magic is certain biden will shut things down. There is evidence, provided by magic even, that things are shutdown down while trump is president.

Similar to how a poster like jazzfresh would talk about all the rioting that will happen if Biden is president even though there is no evidence of that.... While at the same time there is rioting going on while Trump is currently president.

Oh and i keep seeing people on facebook saying that Biden will take our guns. Again there is no evidence of this. I also remember hearing how obama was gonna take my guns. I still have my guns. Oh and logic, I have that too.

 

[magic]

One thing i find interesting is that posters like magic will talk with such certainty that Biden will shut everything down even though there is no evidence that he will.... While at the same time pointing out all these places that are shut down right now while trump is currently the president.
To recap: There is no evidence that things will be shut down under biden, yet magic is certain biden will shut things down. There is evidence, provided by magic even, that things are shutdown down while trump is president.

Similar to how a poster like jazzfresh would talk about all the rioting that will happen if Biden is president even though there is no evidence of that.... While at the same time there is rioting going on while Trump is currently president.

Oh and i keep seeing people on facebook saying that Biden will take our guns. Again there is no evidence of this. I also remember hearing how obama was gonna take my guns. I still have my guns. Oh and logic, I have that too.

Have you not listened to a word Biden says? Did you not listen to any of the presidential debates? Did you not even try a simple google? I found an article in literally seconds: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/21/joe-biden-lockdown-us-coronavirus-400126

Also, it's absurd that I even have to talk about this when you look at places like NY and Boston that have so many places/things shut down still. The governor of California is limiting people To Three Families, Two Hours Or Less, No Singing. You need to open your eyes man.

And as I already mentioned, Republicans let states do what they want. So liberals can keep their states like California can continue keeping their residents if they want. Democrats, on the other hand, are top down and like to enforce their liberal policies on all states. The choice for Republican is easy this year.

 

[fishonjazz]

Not only will Biden shutdown the economy and take away your guns but he will also take away heat in the winter, AC in the summer and no electricity when you want it. According to trump, who is a notorious liar so you can take it with a grain of salt.

"There will be no heating in the winter, no air conditioning in the summer, and no electricity" -- Trump on what will happen if Biden wins

Lol Donald. Lol

Trump says Biden will take away your electricity, celebrates low Black voter turnout in Wisconsin rally

President Trump made another visit to the swing state of Wisconsin on Friday evening, bringing some unfounded theories and repetitive rants along with him.For starters, Trump celebrated reports that Democratic nominee Joe Biden wasn't driving Black voter turnout, framing it in a way that made it...

www.yahoo.com

 

[fishonjazz]

Have you not listened to a word Biden says? Did you not listen to any of the presidential debates? Did you not even try a simple google? I found an article in literally seconds: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/21/joe-biden-lockdown-us-coronavirus-400126

Also, it's absurd that I even have to talk about this when you look at places like NY and Boston that have so many places/things shut down still. The governor of California is limiting people To Three Families, Two Hours Or Less, No Singing. You need to open your eyes man.

And as I already mentioned, Republicans let states do what they want. So liberals can keep their states like California can continue keeping their residents if they want. Democrats, on the other hand, are top down and like to enforce their liberal policies on all states. The choice for Republican is easy this year.

You still have no way of knowing if Biden will shut things down or if he will leave it to the states. What you are doing is called assuming. What we do know is that trump is allowing states to shut down.

The link you provided said things like he would lock the country down IF IT WERE NECESSARY. That is called context. He also said he would listen to the scientists and doctors.
I hope he does lock the country down if its necessary. Lets say the virus mutates and starts killing 10% of people who get it for example. I would think it necessary to shut things down at that point. Or if hospitals are way over capacity and people are dying simply because they are unable to see a doctor for things like a heart attack or cancer or whatever. Of if we discover that people who got the virus and were fine originally started having major health issues. We are still learning about the virus.

I will wait for you to provide a link of Biden saying he will lock the country down just because. just for funsies.

I would hope that trump would lock things down if the situation warranted it. I personally dont think it does right now but I am unable to see into the future at this time. I simply dont have the technology to do so.

 

[fishonjazz]

Have you not listened to a word Biden says? Did you not listen to any of the presidential debates? Did you not even try a simple google? I found an article in literally seconds: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/21/joe-biden-lockdown-us-coronavirus-400126

Also, it's absurd that I even have to talk about this when you look at places like NY and Boston that have so many places/things shut down still. The governor of California is limiting people To Three Families, Two Hours Or Less, No Singing. You need to open your eyes man.

And as I already mentioned, Republicans let states do what they want. So liberals can keep their states like California can continue keeping their residents if they want. Democrats, on the other hand, are top down and like to enforce their liberal policies on all states. The choice for Republican is easy this year.

What does the gov of california is limiting people to three families, 2 hours or less, no singing mean? You need to provide some context for that strange statement.
Like if i live in california and my mom had married 4 different men in her lifetime and had children with each man then we would't be allowed to sing for more than two hours or we go to jail or something?

Also republican states have restrictions too you silly goose. Did you know that BYU could not have fans at their football games earlier this year and utah has a republican governor? I haven't had the chance to go to a concert in my republican state.

 

[NAOS]

Oh give me a break. You've made fun of Trump supporters plenty of times, so don't give me this holier than though crap.

And voting for Biden when you want the country opened up more than it currently is like kicking yourself in the nuts everyday for the next four years. If there is one thing that the winner of the race will actually impact, it's the covid lockdown policies. That's by far the most important factor that will swing the election this year. It's not about voting for a narcissist vs a senile old man. It's about lockdown vs no lockdown.

Republicans let states decide how to handle the matter. So if the liberal states want to keep locking down their citizens, they will be able to. But if Biden wins, they will force nationwide lockdowns, even for states like Wyoming and Utah.

Lol

 

[magic]

You still have no way of knowing if Biden will shut things down or if he will leave it to the states. What you are doing is called assuming. What we do know is that trump is allowing states to shut down.

The link you provided said things like he would lock the country down IF IT WERE NECESSARY. That is called context. He also said he would listen to the scientists and doctors.
I hope he does lock the country down if its necessary. Lets say the virus mutates and starts killing 10% of people who get it for example. I would think it necessary to shut things down at that point. Or if hospitals are way over capacity and people are dying simply because they are unable to see a doctor for things like a heart attack or cancer or whatever. Of if we discover that people who got the virus and were fine originally started having major health issues. We are still learning about the virus.

I will wait for you to provide a link of Biden saying he will lock the country down just because. just for funsies.

I would hope that trump would lock things down if the situation warranted it. I personally dont think it does right now but I am unable to see into the future at this time. I simply dont have the technology to do so.

Dude he literally said they are going to impose lock down/covid policies till the year 2022. And they will rationalize any spike in cases as justification for locking things down, as has already happened. You're just choosing to not accept reality because you've already made up your mind.

 

[magic]

What does the gov of california is limiting people to three families, 2 hours or less, no singing mean? You need to provide some context for that strange statement.
Like if i live in california and my mom had married 4 different men in her lifetime and had children with each man then we would't be allowed to sing for more than two hours or we go to jail or something?

Also republican states have restrictions too you silly goose. Did you know that BYU could not have fans at their football games earlier this year and utah has a republican governor? I haven't had the chance to go to a concert in my republican state.

California Rules On Large Gatherings: Limit To Three Families, Two Hours Or Less, No Singing

New social distancing guidelines released by the state of California are prohibiting gatherings that include more than three households at any time.

losangeles.cbslocal.com

It's regarding Thanksgiving. I edited my original post but cut that part out by accident. Anyhow, shows the insanity of liberal policies.

And every state has some sort of restrictions, what's your point? We are taking about lockdowns and extreme policies.

 

[fishonjazz]

Just got an emergency alert on my phone today telling me that there can be no social gatherings of more than 10 people. How is it possible that I received that alert in a republican state run by a republican governor? Republican states let you do whatever you want from what I heard.

 

[fishonjazz]

Dude he literally said they are going to impose lock down/covid policies till the year 2022. And they will rationalize any spike in cases as justification for locking things down, as has already happened. You're just choosing to not accept reality because you've already made up your mind.

Link to Biden literally saying they will impose lock down until the year 2022?
The first part of your second sentence is another assumption (you love those) and the second part of your second sentence (after the comma) is simply untrue and literally impossible silly. Bidens administration couldn't possibly have already rationalized any spike in cases as a justification for locking things down since he has not been president yet.

 

[The Thriller]

this seems relevant right now in this thread.

 

[bjunior]

Trump 2020!!!

 

[magic]

Link to Biden literally saying they will impose lock down until the year 2022?
The first part of your second sentence is another assumption (you love those) and the second part of your second sentence (after the comma) is simply untrue and literally impossible silly. Bidens administration couldn't possibly have already rationalized any spike in cases as a justification for locking things down since he has not been president yet.

Watch the 3rd debate.

It's not an assumption. It happened. The "experts" were calling for extended lockdowns/restrictions this summer when cases went up and the liberal states like California abided.

Also, your argument that "We don't know what Biden will do because he hasn't been president yet" is straight up stupid. I'm done here.

 

[NAOS]

Dude he literally said they are going to impose lock down/covid policies till the year 2022. And they will rationalize any spike in cases as justification for locking things down, as has already happened. You're just choosing to not accept reality because you've already made up your mind.

Lmao

 

[NAOS]

Watch the 3rd debate.

It's not an assumption. It happened. The "experts" were calling for extended lockdowns/restrictions this summer when cases went up and the liberal states like California abided.

Also, your argument that "We don't know what Biden will do because he hasn't been president yet" is straight up stupid. I'm done here.

Lmfao

 

[Avery]

Seven months into this, it’s apparent we have no clucking idea what we’re doing.

I’m sick of this ****. If locking down for a few weeks to get this under control is the plan, fine.

I’m tired of doing nothing and expecting something to change.