The Fresh Prince
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2022 Annual Jazzfanz Current NBA Draft
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YoungJefe
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In order for his contract to stay fully gtd he has to stay under 295 pounds and keep his body fat % below a certain threshold. I think they're poised to make a leap if he can keep his weight under control. Has there ever been a player like Zion that was a transcendent talent with weight issues?
I'll vote how I feel, thanks for your tip though.
Yes there has been.
Getting under a weight limit doesn't mean he is working hard to get his body in shape to prevent injuries. I wish the best for him though. He has fun to watch.
The Fresh Prince
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YoungJefe
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Who has been a former #1 overall pick that has produced at a historic level and then couldn't stay healthy because of their weight?
Thee Idiotic Minivan K
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Mo Bamba
What do you mean about historic levels? Are you talking about his college or HS days? But yes.
YoungJefe
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Gotcha, so a partial season where he put up some numbers that are comparable to historic players over a short period of time, but couldnt stay healthy and finish the season.
YoungJefe
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He averaged 27 ppg, 7 rpg, 4 apg on 61% FG in 61 games in 20/21 and was an All-Star. New Orleans literally just gave him one of the biggest deals in NBA history based on that season/production, lol. Even if he wasn't healthy, you literally can't find a more impressive sample size of production that big.
No doubt it was impressive. I have never argued that. I have argued that he cant stay healthy and I have my doubts about his ability to do that. I am unsure he takes good enough care of his body and is in good enough shape to withstand a full season and playoffs playing significant minutes. But, I hope he proves that wrong.
I dont have anyone who has done that because of weight, numbers, and other details, that is pretty specific. Maybe some comparable in the NFL. Injury wise and career wise he is somewhere between Greg Oden and Brandon Roy. Not quite at what Roy did in his career but similar hype coming into the NBA as Oden and health issues similar, though Oden never really got healthy or lived up to much.
Its pretty hard to say much about him. He put up great numbers for 1 season and hasnt been healthy in his 3 years of the NBA. His only good season the team was terrible. They didnt win much around him yet.
I think Embiid is the biggest hope for him to follow. A guy who struggled for a few years to get healthy and still has to pace himself a big but is obviously an elite star. I think he has the potential, but chances are he wont get there.
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Dejounte Murray / Gary Trent Jr
Bradley Beal / Kelly Oubre Jr
Mikal Bridges / Bojan Bogdanovich
Tobias Harris / Obi Toppin
Joel Embiid / Mo Bamba
I am pretty pleased with that. I have good mixture of elite offense and defense. Good spacing and ball movement guys. The best big man in the NBA right now in Embiid, who plays on both ends.
Bradley Beal / Kelly Oubre Jr
Mikal Bridges / Bojan Bogdanovich
Tobias Harris / Obi Toppin
Joel Embiid / Mo Bamba
I am pretty pleased with that. I have good mixture of elite offense and defense. Good spacing and ball movement guys. The best big man in the NBA right now in Embiid, who plays on both ends.
YoungJefe
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I agree, hopefully he can stay healthy but I think it's probably a long shot. I'd guess he has a similar career to someone like Amar'e where his highs are extremely high but it's just pretty short lived.
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YoungJefe
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I like your starting 5, I think that you'd probably have to stagger Murray/Beal quite a bit though because you don't really have any playmaking or shot creation off the bench.
He is a close second. His defense keeps him from being as good as Embiid. I was trying to pick between the two of them with my 2nd pick but after a second it wasnt close for me. Scoring between the two is about the same, last year Embiid was the better 3 point shooter but its been the other way in the past. Jokic is a better passer, Embiid is a much better defender. Both are good players though. I would rather build around a two way guy though.
I probably would for defensive reasons have one of the best guard defenders Gary Trent Jr coming in a lot between the two. I see those three getting equal minutes. Beal probably subs out first and then tears the second units apart. But Trent Jr can create his own shot pretty well, so can Bojan and Oubre. But those 3 dont create much for others.