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Handlogten's Heros said:
I know 6th doesn't seem that far but I think right now I'd be happy with 8th or 9th... I think the Toronto and Indiana wins were must lose games if we wanted to get to 6th-ish.
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I think Ainge is going to want Whitmore or Walker. I think they're going to try to make a push to get into the top 7. They can then chase Wallace or Black at the end of the lottery with the Minny pick and another pick they're willing to trade to move up a few spots. Put some combination of those guys on the floor with Lauri, Walker and Ochai, and you've basically got a Danny Ainge team.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
I dont think I would. I like the guys in that range, but I dont think anyone is a surefire star.

I still think all the future picks we hold are more valuable in a trade. Just get the best possible rookies. Dont think you have to get a star in the draft.

If it's just the Wolves+Jazz pick to jump like 3 spots to 6th is that worth it?

What player would have to be available at 6 for it to be worth it? Got to think it's a certainty Scott/Wemby/Miller/Amen are gone.
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Also stars can be found outside of top 5. We have a good history in mid round drafting and player development.

14 of the 24 players in this years ASG were picked outside of top 5, including 9 outside of top 10.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
I think Ainge is going to want Whitmore or Walker. I think they're going to try to make a push to get into the top 7. They can then chase Wallace or Black at the end of the lottery with the Minny pick and another pick they're willing to trade to move up a few spots. Put some combination of those guys on the floor with Lauri, Walker and Ochai, and you've basically got a Danny Ainge team.
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that would be sick if the LA pick got us Walker or Whitmore
 
YoungJefe said:
Just a question, how often are guys sub 40% shooters in college and then go onto be good / efficient scorers in the NBA?
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Guys improve with better shot selection, picking their spots and getting reps. His 81% FT% shows he has touch and consistency. The fact that he's taking almost 9 3s per game is also affecting his numbers. His TS% isn't great, but isn't terrible.
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
On a spaced NBA floor, this kid is going to score the ball.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hxr-DC9L-cQ
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I’m sure he will. I don’t hate him… I just want him to be able to do other things or score really efficiently… otherwise he’s an Anfernee Simons type dude… it’s valuable.

I just think prime Eric Gordon is a tier above George as a prospect. Dude was powerful and explosive.

If George isn’t more pg than sg then I’m not sure he’s a guy I’d love to build around. He’d end up causing some lineup inflexibility for a team that is a contender.
 
My concern on George is that he rarely gets to the rim, and that is a tough living in the NBA. He's too mid range heavy, and not particularly good in the mid range which leads to poor efficiency. Having said that, it could just be the case of NCAA basketball being terrible and that an open floor will open things up for him. I'm leaning towards the latter. I still don't love his archetype, but I think he's got a better chance at being a lead guard than anyone besides Scoot. I'm more confident in him being a PG than Black, for example, although I'm not confident on either.
 
KqWIN said:
My concern on George is that he rarely gets to the rim, and that is a tough living in the NBA. He's too mid range heavy, and not particularly good in the mid range which leads to poor efficiency. Having said that, it could just be the case of NCAA basketball being terrible and that an open floor will open things up for him. I'm leaning towards the latter. I still don't love his archetype, but I think he's got a better chance at being a lead guard than anyone besides Scoot. I'm more confident in him being a PG than Black, for example, although I'm not confident on either.
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I'm just curious why people don't think Black is a pg. He is very much a pg right now and I get it if you are saying the pg is the primary creator... he's likely not that... but Lonzo is a pg, Giddey too.

I'm very high on Black and I get why some may not like him as much... but the sentiment that he isn't a point guard is confusing to me. The shooting and raw numbers not looking that great are concerns.

Black doesn't look for his shot enough and every time I watch them I just marvel at the lack of shooting. He drives to pass too much but there are so many dudes in the paint... they are kinda like the Lakers with Russ on the court. Black drives and kicks out and the receiver pump fakes and drives again. I think Black is going to be so much better in NBA actions with good players around him. He's a connector and the parts he is connecting in Arkansas are just rough (offensively).

When I think of point guards I traditionally think of connectors so the "not sure he's a pg" narrative is strange to me.
 
After watching a bunch of college basketball I just wish they would abolish the zone defense. I think its the single biggest change they could make to improve the game. There is just no space to operate when dudes can camp in the middle of the lane the whole possession.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
I’m sure he will. I don’t hate him… I just want him to be able to do other things or score really efficiently… otherwise he’s an Anfernee Simons type dude… it’s valuable.

I just think prime Eric Gordon is a tier above George as a prospect. Dude was powerful and explosive.

If George isn’t more pg than sg then I’m not sure he’s a guy I’d love to build around. He’d end up causing some lineup inflexibility for a team that is a contender.
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I think George is a bit more of a threat to drive than Simons is, just because George is more solidly built. Simons also didn't turn out to be particularly quick off the dribble. Again, I think there's some similarity between George and Markelle Fultz at Washington.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHwDSkPBuuU
 
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Ferguson_Mellochill said:
Guys improve with better shot selection, picking their spots and getting reps. His 81% FT% shows he has touch and consistency. The fact that he's taking almost 9 3s per game is also affecting his numbers. His TS% isn't great, but isn't terrible.
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Then there’s Markelle Fultz… he got worse in the nba and I don’t think it was a shot selection thing.
 
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