2023 NBA Draft Megathread

[seattlejazzfan]

Yeah, but there's a difference in getting some insurance on your max aging center and drafting a backup center to backup your 2nd year center.

no question, but the fact remains - he was a back up center drafted in late first round. had the jazz drafted kessler at #22, fans would have been pissed for that very reason.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I'm sure if he were to come back he would be getting a pretty good chunk of NIL cash coming his way. I also think he is probably a 20 or later pick this year and could raise his draft stock quite a bit if he plays well next year. I'm not saying that he is coming back but I think out of all the potential 1st rd picks he may benefit the most from it.

There's several guys you could put in that bucket. Coming back is just a big risk. How many Sophomore are in the top 30 this draft?

 

[Bawse Dawg]

Ive used it a lot. It has old information by design.

I like how Wemby has grown four inches since it last updated. lol

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I signed up for ChatGPT just to ask what the Jazz will do in the draft, this thing stinks.

Great now them AI bots gonna jimmy rig the lotto to make sure we don't win.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I'm sure if he were to come back he would be getting a pretty good chunk of NIL cash coming his way. I also think he is probably a 20 or later pick this year and could raise his draft stock quite a bit if he plays well next year. I'm not saying that he is coming back but I think out of all the potential 1st rd picks he may benefit the most from it.

My son would transfer to Michigan State just to piss me off.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

no question, but the fact remains - he was a back up center drafted in late first round. had the jazz drafted kessler at #22, fans would have been pissed for that very reason.

I'm fine with taking a center like Lively or Ware with the 27th pick... unless there are wings still on the board that are good bets. Part of the problem when we drafted Tony and Udoka is that there were obvious wing options still on the board. The other part of the problem was they were dinosaurs. I think Lively or Ware are different enough they are okay to take in that spot... but then the ultimate upside is that they do so well that they are trade assets. Also think with Kessler being young you may want to have one vet to support him.

If we take a big I prefer they are a shooting big... but if they are elite protecting the rim then that's fine at #27 I guess.

 

[Bawse Dawg]

Great now them AI bots gonna jimmy rig the lotto to make sure we don't win.

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[Eddie Zero]

lol at the narrative of us not using all our picks this year.

Sure, that's possible, but I see no reason why that is likely. Our roster is *** cheeks with talent. The Jazz need to stock pile some talent and we have no picks next year. Why not make all 3 this year? This draft is considered deep, so make all 3.

I mean you can laugh if you want and call it a narrative, but the odds we use all 3 are only probable if nobody has any interest in moving a 24 pick around. I mean sure its not like any team at the top of this draft will give up the pick for out later picks.
The odds a couple late lottery picks- which is our best case at this point, barring winning the lottery, where we dont need to trade up, is even more incentive to think we are not using them all on rookies in one draft. Not all on guaranteed 1st round selections anyway. I could maybe see a bought 2nd rounder on a g league development project.
It is a possibility especially given we have so many newer faces as is, that still really have not played much together. I think next season we will be worse for awhile for sure even with 2 rookies than we are right now, just trying to get those rookies acclimated as well as Sexton Agbaji etc who have not played much at all yet
. So wouldn't Danny want a lottery pick next year? yeah I think he much rather would have one next season than 3 this go around.

 

[jom2003]

kessler was drafted as a back up center and would have been had the jazz drafted him.

yeah the fact is he really wasn't.

He was literally traded to us for our starting center, a move that very much made our starting center spot/minutes up for grabs.

imagine us drafting kessler while Rudy was still on the team. He's gonna take very limited backup minutes and viewed as a waste of FRP just like Bradley and Dok. walker's overall the best prospect out of the three. sure. but it won't mean anything unless we give him the minutes needed to develop.

 

[seattlejazzfan]

I'm fine with taking a center like Lively or Ware with the 27th pick... unless there are wings still on the board that are good bets. Part of the problem when we drafted Tony and Udoka is that there were obvious wing options still on the board. The other part of the problem was they were dinosaurs. I think Lively or Ware are different enough they are okay to take in that spot... but then the ultimate upside is that they do so well that they are trade assets. Also think with Kessler being young you may want to have one vet to support him.

If we take a big I prefer they are a shooting big... but if they are elite protecting the rim then that's fine at #27 I guess.

i think we are in agreement. i like the idea of drafting a high potential guy like Lively at the end of the first round - the point being each pick should be judged in it's own, considering the prospect himself, who is still on the board, etc, - rather than just don't draft a back up center because we've been burned by Bradley and Dok.

 

[fishonjazz]

Yeah, and how many rotation players are we going to sign in UFA? 1-2, maybe 3 tops?

Sexton
Ochai/Clarkson
No Idea
Lauri
Kessler/Olynyk

Jazz really only have 6 bonafide NBA rotation level players. THT is kind of a wildcard if he can make some scoring/shooting consistency leaps. It could be 5 if we can't re-sign Clarkson and it could be 4 if we decide to waive KO because we decide he isnt worth his 12 million per year contract.

The Jazz have a lot of room on the roster.

No doubt. The jazz currently have hella end of the bench scrub types. Need lots of help.

 

[Eddie Zero]

This is probably the smart move.

I like Lively, in the late first round it would be nice value, but you are almost guaranteed to never maximize Lively because he would never get enough minutes. If the draft is zapped of 1st round quality talent and Lively is the only prospect left that is that quality, you should probably look for a trade.

wait I thought we were using all the picks lol
see you just suggested an issue that will present itself a lot, where the first round talent for the most part is just projects and you can get better value in a non guaranteed picked option in the 30's. We need a veteran stretch 5 to back up Walker longterm if KO aint it imo. DA aint using all 3 on Rooks unless a lot of really good options fall due to character issues or injuries. Not if he can add value by getting a 24 first and a early 2nd in this draft, by moving back a couple spots from the middle pick this time and moving off the 3rd one .

 

[Eddie Zero]

i think we are in agreement. i like the idea of drafting a high potential guy like Lively at the end of the first round - the point being each pick should be judged in it's own, considering the prospect himself, who is still on the board, etc, - rather than just don't draft a back up center because we've been burned by Bradley and Dok.

Not sure why anyone thinks Lively is a high upside option. wingspan? I mean I guess he could become something more than Fab Melo did but I aint seeing anything much at all with him besides a bust

 

[seattlejazzfan]

Not sure why anyone thinks Lively is a high upside option. wingspan? I mean I guess he could become something more than Fab Melo did but I aint seeing anything much at all with him besides a bust

wingspan, athleticism. he's a 7'1 athlete who can run the floor and get on top of the rim and has been extremely productive as a shot-blocker as a freshman (his block % is elite). his potential as a shot blocker and rim runner is very high.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

wingspan, athleticism. he's a 7'1 athlete who can run the floor and get on top of the rim and has been extremely productive as a shot-blocker as a freshman (his block % is elite). his potential as a shot blocker and rim runner is very high.

Also... are we sure the new Duke coach is any good?

If you landed Nerlens Noel or Jarret Allen or a player in either of those molds with the #27 then its still a good play even with Walker on the roster. If Colby Jones, Jordan Hawkins, Sidy, Bilal, Leonard Miller were still there and you went with a center I would think its a bad use of an asset. Walker isn't as established as Rudy was when we drafted Doke and Bradley. We also don't have to be really good next year... so you could develop two big men... I'm not advocating for it... but I won't throw a baby fit like I did when we took Dok. I hated the Bradley pick at the time as well... but we had just taken Don so I didn't cry as hard as I could have.

 

[Bodhi]

I just think you draft best player available.

Always.

 

[Chargers Jazz Angels]

The not having a pick next year makes me think along these same lines.

Dudes on rookie deals are so valuable. Not ideal having 3 in the same draft since that causes problems if 2-3 really hit with cap/salary implications at the same time but a great problem to have especially vs less dudes overall.

I would not be surprised to see the Philly pick moved for a pick next year. Someone will slip and teams will want to move up to get them.

 

[Eddie Zero]

wingspan, athleticism. he's a 7'1 athlete who can run the floor and get on top of the rim and has been extremely productive as a shot-blocker as a freshman (his block % is elite). his potential as a shot blocker and rim runner is very high.

I guess , and someone will probably talk themselves into it late first early 2nd.
I like the idea of picking up a mid 2nd if he is still around though and then I am good with it, because he will have a chip at that point. He aint got one right now, he looks entitled and will probably be one of these kids that thinks he's getting a green room invite right until he does not smh

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Jazz are in great shape. But I am envious of the Magic. Their own and the Bulls picks is a sweet deal.

A couple years from now, when Gobert and Conley have fallen off and Towns leaves in free agency, the T'wolves may be a perennial lottery team.

 

[Coach Ellis]

I would not be surprised to see the Philly pick moved for a pick next year. Someone will slip and teams will want to move up to get them.

Maybe. But if someone slips, maybe the Jazz should just take him themselves. I also would not be surprised if the Jazz trade Olynyk for Duncan Robinson and an asset at some point this offseason.