You can’t seriously believe that. JHS is nowhere near the shooter Booker was coming out. Not even in the same stratosphere.
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You can’t seriously believe that. JHS is nowhere near the shooter Booker was coming out. Not even in the same stratosphere.
Yeah, cuz JHS ****ing sucks *** at shooting. At a certain point the ball has to go in the god damn bucket at a minimal rate and he was flat out BAD at that. Players can usually get better but his numbers are not even on a margin that lets me believe he’s a good bet.
I guess you didnt read the part where I said he clearly is not as good as Booker.
seattlejazzfan
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yup. he steps into the nba on day one with a clear cut nba skill. if he proves to be able to do more than that - put it on the floor a bit, defend at a high level, it's gravy. at worst you have him coming in and doing what Strus is doing for the heat.
I guess you clearly don’t understand that someone who can’t shoot isn’t the closest thing to Booker in the draft.
Yeah, I think you are being incredibly short sighted if you think JHS is a bad shooter. He is a high level mid-range shooter (you know, the most Devin Bookery thing that Devin Booker does) and his 3pt shot looks promising. If you take out his corner attempts, he was a 38% 3pt shooter. So he shot really well at the harder 3pt shots (believe he was 38% out of PNR for 3's), but just isnt comfortable at knocking down what is generally thought of as the easier shot. That will come along and he will be a fine shooter.
Also, Devin's 3pt shooting from college never translated to the NBA. He's a career 36% from 3 and it's not the defining part of his game.
You are taking an incredibly black/white view of shooting for someone who is an Anthony Black stan and wants us to not think about his shooting.
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So nice to see some Hawkins discussion. Seems like there were like hundreds of back to back pages in this thread without a single mention of him.
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I like him… I love the idea of what he could be. I’d take that bet at 5
From a post I saw on reddit about JHS for anyone who is stuck in the "JHS is a bad shooter" mindset
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What? I understand Black’s biggest flaw is his shooting. I’m not the one comparing him to Booker. I believe he will be serviceable from 3.
JHS shot worse on off the dribble/pull-up 2’s than Black and Wallace.
So I shouldnt compare the best college mid-range pull up shooter to the best NBA mid-range shooter? Ok.
And like I said, I didnt say they are of equal quality. I simply said JHS and Booker play alike and they clearly do. Hop off the dick, especially when I clearly state I wasnt calling him as good as Booker. You're so thirsty for me it's embarassing.
He shot 3% worse than Wallace on triple the attempts. I have no idea what Black's were, but I'm sure it was a tiny sample size nowhere comparable to JHS.
I’m pretty sure Sensabaugh is the best college kid-range pull-up shooter.
You fell off hard. You’re clinging on to your Kuzma take. Since then you’ve been absolute trash.
JHS will be out of your top-10 in about a week.
It feels very personal here. Dont know why people want to create such hostility over draft takes.
Give me a break. That’s rich coming from you. It seems like you search out Fish’s comments on other threads in attempts to trash him. You didn’t even reply back to him the other day because he made you look like an absolute clown.
If you weren’t such a dick you wouldn’t get the same treatment back.
So you are taking my post out of context and attacking me to white knight for Fish?
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Would you rather have a player who shot 38% from 3, but the majority of their makes and attempts came from the corner, or would you rather have a 33% shooter who converted 38% of their above the break 3's, but struggled to an unusual degree from the corners?
Because the corner shot is generally regarded as the easiest, and if a player has exhibited the ability to make the tougher shots, the common sense take would be that you can more easily teach a player to be proficient in the easier shot than you can the harder shot.
Combine that with the player being proficient in the mid-range on difficult shots, this is the profile of a good shooter who can easily scale up with reps. Shows how powerful narrative are in regards to prospects. Someone saw JHS, labeled him a bad shooter and it stuck despite it being pretty far from the truth. The bummer with JHS is that he has a small sample size on his FT attempts (litterally if you take out the first game of the season where he went 1/4 he becomes an 81% FT shooter, just to show how small the sample is). If he was an 80%+ FT shooter on more attempts I'd feel more confident in projecting his shooting growth, but it isnt so there is still somewhat a question as there is with most prospects.
Because the corner shot is generally regarded as the easiest, and if a player has exhibited the ability to make the tougher shots, the common sense take would be that you can more easily teach a player to be proficient in the easier shot than you can the harder shot.
Combine that with the player being proficient in the mid-range on difficult shots, this is the profile of a good shooter who can easily scale up with reps. Shows how powerful narrative are in regards to prospects. Someone saw JHS, labeled him a bad shooter and it stuck despite it being pretty far from the truth. The bummer with JHS is that he has a small sample size on his FT attempts (litterally if you take out the first game of the season where he went 1/4 he becomes an 81% FT shooter, just to show how small the sample is). If he was an 80%+ FT shooter on more attempts I'd feel more confident in projecting his shooting growth, but it isnt so there is still somewhat a question as there is with most prospects.