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Like Walsh might be more a RoCo type and less of a Bridges type dude.
 
Anthony Black is the guy I'm looking at in the 10-12 range that I would just love for us. Love the way he plays even if its a bit understated. Heard a pod with Jake Fisher and Kristen Peek the other day... They just talked about how he's a worker and is present at every camp imaginable. Had a story about him playing with the national team and then showing up at some CP camp immediately after... said originally Nick Smith wasn't planning on attending cuz he was tired and the organizers was like "well Anthony is here and ready to go" and Smith ended up showing up.

6'7" playmakers that love basketball and the shot isn't broken... give me that **** all day.
 
clowney played well vs houston and miller didn't. that's just lazy, recency bias.

That’s not it. I actually saw this take before the HOU game. Clowney is two years younger than Brandon Miller.

I don’t think it’s crazy. Clowney could be a lottery type prospect. Brandon Miller is a lottery type prospect, but I’m not buying into the top 3/top 5 hype. If he was younger, maybe.
 
FWIW I didn't think Bridges was a Bridges type dude while at Villanova. Just thought he was your standard 3&D and got a little over drafted. Boy was I wrong.
I loved him.
 
That’s not it. I actually saw this take before the HOU game. Clowney is two years younger than Brandon Miller.

I don’t think it’s crazy. Clowney could be a lottery type prospect. Brandon Miller is a lottery type prospect, but I’m not buying into the top 3/top 5 hype. If he was younger, maybe.
He's interesting. I think Miller got a bit overhyped but I'd have zero problem taking him 5-7 range. My way too early actual top 10 is:

Wemby
Scoot
Amen
Cam Whitmore
Brandon Miller
Nick Smith Jr.
Anthony Black
GG Jackson
Ausar Thompson
Keyonte George

Prolly lower on Nick Smith than many. Its just the player type I guess.
 
That’s not it. I actually saw this take before the HOU game. Clowney is two years younger than Brandon Miller.

I don’t think it’s crazy. Clowney could be a lottery type prospect. Brandon Miller is a lottery type prospect, but I’m not buying into the top 3/top 5 hype. If he was younger, maybe.
Source?

From what I can tell Miller turned 20 in November and Clowney's birthday is on July 14th, but I'm not sure if it's a 2003 or 2004 birthdate (there's one website that says he was born January 2003, but Alabama's twitter account wishes him happy birthday on July 14th, so obviously not a good website). If It's 2003, he's only 8 months younger, if it's 2004 it's 20 months.
 
Black/Aussar/GG in the 8-10 range would be super dope for us with the Minnesota pick.
Depending on how the draft plays out I think it might be possible to trade to the 4-6 range without paying the mega premium it usually takes. If we have two picks in the 9-12 range I think we might be able to parlay one of those picks and either the Brooklyn pick or a future pick to move up.

Also would be awesome if we just effing got lucky. Adding a top 4 pick and a late lotto pick to what we have would make me very happy.
 
I will say I really liked SGA in that draft. Those Kentucky guards always seem to over perform in the NBA.

Meanwhile the Kansas players usually have a more difficult time adjusting to the NBA. Ofc Agbaji is another Kansas product trying to adjust to the pro game.
I mean, SGA was a top 50 recruit. Ochai was a 3-star. Not really comparable. UK's guys translate because they are more talented (or at least they were, they arent really getting guys like that as much anymore).
 
I mean, SGA was a top 50 recruit. Ochai was a 3-star. Not really comparable. UK's guys translate because they are more talented (or at least they were, they arent really getting guys like that as much anymore).
I think that is a big component.. I think they also would be so loaded that everyone would sink into smaller roles than they would normally. I also think Cal isn't a great coach so the guys were better than they might show.
 
I think that is a big component.. I think they also would be so loaded that everyone would sink into smaller roles than they would normally. I also think Cal isn't a great coach so the guys were better than they might show.
Cal's thing was to recruit NBA talent because he knew they would get drafted highly and look good in the NBA, which would strengthen his ability to recruit future classes. NBA guys arent necessarily going to be great college players, especially when you arent keeping the majority of them for more than a single season (though that has changed for Cal now that he isnt getting as many top guys and is now doing a lot more of the transfer pool). Looking bad at UK was kind of built into the system. I dont think any college coach would look smart/good if the majority of his players ever year where freshman.
 
Depending on how the draft plays out I think it might be possible to trade to the 4-6 range without paying the mega premium it usually takes. If we have two picks in the 9-12 range I think we might be able to parlay one of those picks and either the Brooklyn pick or a future pick to move up.

Also would be awesome if we just effing got lucky. Adding a top 4 pick and a late lotto pick to what we have would make me very happy.

I did the math on it on a separate thread but don’t remember the exact picks. I think it was if we ended up with picks 8 and 9 pre-lottery there is like a 47% chance or so that one of those picks moves up in the top-4.

The cutoff from 9 to 10 is pretty significant.

20.2% of moving into the top-4 vs 13.9%.
 
Source?

From what I can tell Miller turned 20 in November and Clowney's birthday is on July 14th, but I'm not sure if it's a 2003 or 2004 birthdate (there's one website that says he was born January 2003, but Alabama's twitter account wishes him happy birthday on July 14th, so obviously not a good website). If It's 2003, he's only 8 months younger, if it's 2004 it's 20 months.

I just saw it in the twitter discussion, so nothing official or anything but I'm guessing it's 2004.
 
I mean, SGA was a top 50 recruit. Ochai was a 3-star. Not really comparable. UK's guys translate because they are more talented (or at least they were, they arent really getting guys like that as much anymore).
Agreed. Kentucky isn't getting the big names as much. For whatever reason Calipari doesn't get the best out of his recruits while at Kentucky but they seem to blossom in the NBA.

We will see if Cason Wallace falls into that bucket. Might be a quality pick in the teens this draft although I'd like him better if he measures out at the combine to at least 6'-5".
 
He's interesting. I think Miller got a bit overhyped but I'd have zero problem taking him 5-7 range. My way too early actual top 10 is:

Wemby
Scoot
Amen
Cam Whitmore
Brandon Miller
Nick Smith Jr.
Anthony Black
GG Jackson
Ausar Thompson
Keyonte George

Prolly lower on Nick Smith than many. Its just the player type I guess.

I could see Miller being more of a late lottery pick and I could also see Clowney rising to a late lottery pick. Miller feels like a worse prospect version of Jabari Smith and Clowney might be similar to Sochan. I could see the intersection where Clowney actually gets selected ahead....but I'm starting to feel like if it's close at all you should take the true wing anyways.

I like Wemby, Scoot, and Amen as a solid top 3 in that order. I'm more skeptical about the group behind them, but I'd probably have Cam, Black, and then the rest right now.
 
I did the math on it on a separate thread but don’t remember the exact picks. I think it was if we ended up with picks 8 and 9 pre-lottery there is like a 47% chance or so that one of those picks moves up in the top-4.

The cutoff from 9 to 10 is pretty significant.

20.2% of moving into the top-4 vs 13.9%.
It would be really nice if Minny hit a 5 game skid and kinda just didn't have the energy for this ******** anymore and combusted. I still think they end up 12/13ish after losing in the play in. I think we are a play in team still unless Ainge meddles. Even then I've all but given up on making it to 7/8 ish. To many meh teams and I think the Wiz, Bulls, or maybe the Heat decide to pack it in for the year cuz it aint working. With the Wiz it would be trading Beal, Bulls trading Derozan or Lavine, and Heat it would be if Jimmy or Bam got hurt long term.

We just need a super ****** run from the Wolves over these next 13 or so games. Maybe they will tap out mentally.
 
I could see Miller being more of a late lottery pick and I could also see Clowney rising to a late lottery pick. Miller feels like a worse prospect version of Jabari Smith and Clowney might be similar to Sochan. I could see the intersection where Clowney actually gets selected ahead....but I'm starting to feel like if it's close at all you should take the true wing anyways.

I like Wemby, Scoot, and Amen as a solid top 3 in that order. I'm more skeptical about the group behind them, but I'd probably have Cam, Black, and then the rest right now.
With Miller iirc he was awesome in the mid range in HS. I can't see his player type doing that in college since its a cluster **** once you drive past the three point line. He might be PG with above average defense but not like PG's awesome defense. Will want to watch him... the Houston game was really disappointing.

I like the group from after the top 3 to about 11ish. Can talk myself into most of them. Not a fan of Dillon Mitchell but he likely goes outside that group. Would love to nab two guys from that group or one guy and a flier on Whitehead or Dick. Cam and Black are the guys I think with the most seamless fit and I like what they are doing.
 
With Miller iirc he was awesome in the mid range in HS. I can't see his player type doing that in college since its a cluster **** once you drive past the three point line. He might be PG with above average defense but not like PG's awesome defense. Will want to watch him... the Houston game was really disappointing.

I like the group from after the top 3 to about 11ish. Can talk myself into most of them. Not a fan of Dillon Mitchell but he likely goes outside that group. Would love to nab two guys from that group or one guy and a flier on Whitehead or Dick. Cam and Black are the guys I think with the most seamless fit and I like what they are doing.

The 32% from 2FG and 39% at the rim is just.....damn that's terrible haha. I don't think he's PG and it's not fair to make that comparison. But you can be a lot worse than PG and still be very good. I'll be watching to see where his shooting goes from here and whether or not it was just a blazing hot start. He seems very Cam Reddish like to me, who I admittedly took the bait on.
 
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