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2023 NBA Draft Megathread

KqWIN said:
Two of my biggest indicators for ball handlers are rim finishing and pullup shooting (particularly from 3). I think if you can put pressure on the rim and 3 point line as a scorer the playmaking becomes easy.

Cason shot 68% at the rim this season and I think that's one of the highest, if not the highest mark in the class for ball handlers. He also had less than 10% of those baskets assisted, so it's not like he was being spoonfed easy ones. He also had a slightly higher PPS than Keyonte, JHS, and Sasser on pullup jumpers. These are guys who's main thing is their pull up jumper. Basketball isn't played on paper, of course, but on paper there's an argument to be had that Cason is elite in these two areas in comparison to the rest of the class. We don't talk about it because his defense is clearly his best attribute, but maybe we should?

He also has one of the best AST/TOV ratios in the class. So what do you get when a guy is 1) good at the rim 2) good as a pullup shooter 3) good at passing/keeping care of the ball......
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Dude could make an All-Star roster in a Jazz jersey and people here will still be complaining that he's too much/not enough of something.
 
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KqWIN said:
Bufkin was also at 68% at the rim. He had more volume there than Cason, but also had more of those baskets assited. I like Bufkin a lot. He's a Sophomore but Freshman aged. I don't think you're necessarily wrong about him looking like a 6th man as he needs to develop out his PG skills a little bit more. His jump shot could stand to improve as well....but if he's not terrible at those things and he improves he could be a big time player. There's a filthiness to his game that is super intriguing imo. He's got a lot in his bag.
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The stats I’m looking at says Bufkin was 71.1% at the rim and Wallace was 65%.
 
ONE LOVE said:
Nope, no way I’m offering #28 just to move up 2 spots when we could grab the likes of Maxwell Lewis at #28.
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If it's the difference between getting GG Jackson and not getting GG Jackson, you make that trade. The question is what the Hawks are going to do. They could go Hawkins, Whitehead, maybe Leonard Miller, maybe Hood-Schifino.
 
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NUMBERICA said:
Dude could make an All-Star roster in a Jazz jersey and people here will still be complaining that he's too/not enough of something
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I get why people are less excited/intrigued by him.....but I also think it's a trap that's easy to fall into. I think that even with hindsight some of the takes on Haliburton were dumb, but people cast him as a role player because he wasn't making highlight real plays on the daily and also didn't take on a massive offensive load at Iowa St. But what he was good at finishing at the rim, shooting the 3, being a smart/efficient passer, and defending. Fast forward a few years and those turn out to be the things he's good at in the NBA and he's an all star starter because of that.

When a guy is good at a lot of things and doesn't exactly pop on film it's easy to nitpick. I think this is why people suddenly think he's tiny or whatever. Cason's main thing is defense, and that is easy to overlook as well. If he was an average or even bad defender I think he'd still have a case as a prospect because his rim finishing, pull up shooting, and passing are really solid. But the fact that his defense is so great almost mutes those other attributes of his and nobody talks about it.
 
stitches said:
Who do we expect to be there that won't be there at 9?
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Potentially Cam, Ausar, Jarace or Tay Hen.

I’m still very high on Wallace but if in the process you identify one or 2 of those as super high level/all star level dudes, that’s totally worth your worst of 3 picks in one draft to get someone you see as a franchise changer.

Again, that’s only if in workouts etc you fall in love with 1-2 dudes in that range and you might miss without.
 
Bodhi said:
Potentially Cam, Ausar, Jarace or Tay Hen.

I’m still very high on Wallace but if in the process you identify one or 2 of those as super high level/all star level dudes, that’s totally worth your worst of 3 picks in one draft to get someone you see as a franchise changer.

Again, that’s only if in workouts etc you fall in love with 1-2 dudes in that range and you might miss without.
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I would say there is a decent chance two of those guys might be available there.
 
Who is the player in this draft that is generally thought to go late first round or later that could have star upside? And not guys who have hype like GG/Bilal, but more upperclassmen/not on most people's radars to potentially go top 20.

I'm gonna say Jaime Jaquez
 
Bodhi said:
Potentially Cam, Ausar, Jarace or Tay Hen.

I’m still very high on Wallace but if in the process you identify one or 2 of those as super high level/all star level dudes, that’s totally worth your worst of 3 picks in one draft to get someone you see as a franchise changer.

Again, that’s only if in workouts etc you fall in love with 1-2 dudes in that range and you might miss without.
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I think Cam has all star upside, but I'm not sure those other guys do. I also don't think Cam would be a great fit for our team.
 
And no, I would not trade picks in this draft to move up. I like the depth of this class and it's important to have those guys in development.
 
ONE LOVE said:
Nope, no way I’m offering #28 just to move up 2 spots when we could grab the likes of Maxwell Lewis at #28.
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It’s the 28th pick. I’m guessing there’s a 5-10% chance that player is even just a role player? So why not?
NUMBERICA said:
Dude could make an All-Star roster in a Jazz jersey and people here will still be complaining that he's too/not enough of something
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that’s the definition of being a fan though. That’s the case in every fan base.
 
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