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sip said:
He missed his freshman year of highschool because of a broken leg so it may have to do with that.
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Yeah, maybe. FWIW, fractures not on a joint are almost nothing in the hierarchy of injuries with long term implications. Severe sprains are worse. Cam seems to be functioning just fine.

I’ll just throw out there that maybe it is the thumb. I am having a thumb issue and am not even positive what I did but it’s been nagging for months. It’s ounce for ounce the most important part of our musculoskeletal system and it hangs out, too, so it might be a problematic healing process or something.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Yeah, maybe. FWIW, fractures not on a joint are almost nothing in the hierarchy of injuries with long term implications. Severe sprains are worse. Cam seems to be functioning just fine.

I’ll just throw out there that maybe it is the thumb. I am having a thumb issue and am not even positive what I did but it’s been nagging for months. It’s ounce for ounce the most important part of our musculoskeletal system and it hangs out, too, so it might be a problematic healing process or something.
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It's the knee, not thumb, from what I've been told
 
Anti Black fans may hate it, but all signs point to Black being highly valued over Cam, Jarace and others. Let it sink in now and process it. If Ainge loves him then maybe it will be fine.
 
MT Steve said:
That sounds like awful value for Indiana.

Present picks are more valuable than future picks, and this draft in particular is supposed to be deep as hell compared to next. Why trade 29 and 32 of this year's draft for 40 and something likely in the ball park of 26-30 in next year's draft?
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Actually, it's a decent deal. Roster spots are more valuable than picks for them and they just didn't have the space to absorb all those rookie deals. The pick next year will probably be higher than what they gave up, so it works for well for their needs. Granted, next year's class isn't as good, but that's future Pacers problem.
 
whatthe said:
Anti Black fans may hate it, but all signs point to Black being highly valued over Cam, Jarace and others. Let it sink in now and process it. If Ainge loves him then maybe it will be fine.
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Be careful with Ainge... dude is a bit of a contrarian... when all signs point one way they could very well be going a different direction.
 
ONE LOVE said:
Yeah but Greg Oden, Zion, Brandon Roy, Derrick Rose..
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Greg Oden had one leg longer than the other and it’s insane to me he was drafted first. Brandon Roy had worn off a bunch of meniscus before he even played in the league, had terrible trainers, and meniscus replacement surgery is new. Zion relies on his athleticism while he actively exacerbates his condition because he likes eating and not playing basketball more than he likes basketball. Derrick Rose didn’t come into the NBA with issues so far as I know, he just played a style of basketball early on that was warfare on his joints.

MPJ was visibly walking hampered on draft night from a back so bad it prevented him from playing for a year.

Joe Ingles came back from an ACL tear in less than a year.

Sports medicine has come a very long way in even just the last 10 years. Much of what separates success from failure is the player’s dedication to getting their bodies right, including changing their playing style if they rely on explosion.
 
TheStormofWar said:
Actually, it's a decent deal. Roster spots are more valuable than picks for them and they just didn't have the space to absorb all those rookie deals. The pick next year will probably be higher than what they gave up, so it works for well for their needs. Granted, next year's class isn't as good, but that's future Pacers problem.
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Its not ideal... but its also a lesson for us... we have 3 picks in 2025 and 4 in 2027. Look to move one to move up this year if a good opportunity arises... or use one to get a win now player... avoid this crunch in 2027 if you have a GOOD opportunity to do so.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
ESPN updated their mock. Has Whitmore going 8 and Utah taking Hendricks.

This is my nightmare.
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Givony gonna update like six more times... smoke season has been crazy this year.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Givony gonna update like six more times... smoke season has been crazy this year.
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It makes the most sense though. Hendricks is the least decorated of the guys considered to be the top prospects. He doesn't have the HS/AAU career to fall back like the others so he drops to 9. Utah has to make a choice between him and Bilal (this is what Thulein said on the pod today as well, but he had Utah taking Bilal).
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Its not ideal... but its also a lesson for us... we have 3 picks in 2025 and 4 in 2027. Look to move one to move up this year if a good opportunity arises... or use one to get a win now player... avoid this crunch in 2027 if you have a GOOD opportunity to do so.
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Agreed. Probably all Indy could go given the circumstances. Asset consolidation needs to happen at some point.
 
OK, so I'm a little embarrassed about this, but at the risk of seeming obsessed, I looked a little deeper in to the Cason Wallace injury stuff. Mostly, I'm having a hard time understanding how he's seemingly falling in the draft, so wanting to understand a little bit better. I looked through old reports and compared to game logs and some game film. Here is what I found:

- The first injury report was on 1/10 in the game against South Carolina he only played 8 minutes and sat out the second half with back spasms. According to the report this is something he's dealt with for awhile and wears a back brace when on the bench. He played 40 minutes two games before and had a bad game just before, and so my guess is he was affected by his back starting after 12/31.
- He seemingly played through some pain for a couple of games, and didn't play well, but then he looked like himself again for a couple of games and then sprained his ankle on 1/24.
- He played through the sprained ankle and looked bad for a couple of games and then started looking like himself until he reinjured the ankle on 3/1 and had to sit out for a game and then came back for the SEC and NCAA tournament.
- There isn't a lot out there from the draft analysis world on his injury. Only thing I remember hearing was Barlowe talking about Cason's family member saying the back spasms weren't an issue. I'm not seeing any reports from any teams with a red flag after any workouts. I am kind of curious if his canceling a workout earlier had to do with his back acting up, which if that's true, could be a big red flag.
 
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