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2023 NBA Draft Megathread

Bawse Dawg said:
Decent chance we get him, and I would talk myself into it, and root for the kid. But we are a team with a lot of needs and he doesn't seem to really specifically fit any of them.
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One thing that we will probably always need is players that are good at basketball. Hendricks fits that need.
 
Jingled said:
A few weeks ago I thought there was a good chance Jaquez would still be there at 28...seems pretty much impossible at this point.


View: https://twitter.com/Sam_Vecenie/status/1671651170757246977
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Jaquez crushing workouts is the least surprising thing I've heard in the pre-draft process. I have just been denying my senses when I don't speak of him more highly. He's one that has always jumped off the screen but I try not to bite on pump fakes.
 
NUMBERICA said:
Jaquez crushing workouts is the least surprising thing I've heard in the pre-draft process. I have just been denying my senses when I don't speak of him more highly. He's one that has always jumped off the screen but I try not to bite on pump fakes.
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Just buy it before it's too late. He fits the profile of guys you typically like.
 
Jingled said:
A few weeks ago I thought there was a good chance Jaquez would still be there at 28...seems pretty much impossible at this point.


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I like him a lot... I think in the middle of the draft there are going to be some reaches for the next Christian Braun. I think Jacquez is a good candidate in that range... but I think some higher upside guys could slide back as a result... it if becomes a trend. Like Murray, Jacquez, OMP, Ben Shephard, may go like 10 spots higher than they would normally. Warriors specifically will go for a more established dude...
 
Handlogten's Heros said:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzyM-LNaVcU


Familiarize yourself if you ain't on the bandwagon.
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Nothing boring about his game imo. I just don't get that critique.
Literally my 3 favorite things to see in a basketball game as a fan are dunks, blocks, and threes in that order. Those are the things he is best at. That is very exciting for a fan like me who really likes watching dunks, blocks, and threes.
 
Bawse Dawg said:
It's tough because Exum without major injury issues probably easily lives up to that pick.
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Eh, I thought he sucked from day one. Pre injury.
Of course I hated the pick in the first place. Can't play against worse competition pre NBA than what he played against.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
It may depend on who gets to 9... but I doubt they'd take Black to wait and see. I think it actually may end up being 9 and a future pick for Black if it gets done.

If we stay at 9 I still think its Cam or Ausar. I think Taylor ends up in Indiana and Walker end up going before him.
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The Jazz own 4 first round picks in 2027. The best time to move one of those (and we need to move one of those) is right the Hell now. The closer we get, the more jammed up we will be (like OKC was last year and Indiana was this year.)
 
framer said:
The Jazz own 4 first round picks in 2027. The best time to move one of those (and we need to move one of those) is right the Hell now. The closer we get, the more jammed up we will be (like OKC was last year and Indiana was this year.)
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I agree somewhat... like I wouldn't force it obviously... but if you get decent value I would not be holding all those back.
 
Taylor Hendricks is literally the best player statistically than any player any of us ever talk about drafting.
15 points per game on great efficiency, 7 rebounds, 1.7 blocks are better stats than any of Wallace, Bilal, walker, black, Bufkin, JHS, cam, etc etc etc.
He averaged more points than all those dudes. And apparently did it while not being able to created or having high usage. And that's a bad thing?

Is that why people are down on him? Is it because he is already good instead of he could potentially be good in the future?

Its just weird. Give me the guy that produces and does so efficiently over the guy that doesn't produce and is inefficient but might turn that around someday and increase the production and efficiency.
 
I'm almost positive that the Jazz wish to move up in the draft using the 9 and a 2017 pick. I'd guess they want Walker but are smoke screening Black. I also think they would use assets to move up from 16 to get Bufkin or Wallace (the 28 pick or something more.) Bilal is a smoke screen. It throws the scent off of Walker as well.

This also assumes they have no plans to go after Kuzma. If they plan on that, I have no idea where they go, but Black makes a lot of sense. I think the only way we get Hendricks is to trade him to Detroit.
 
framer said:
I'm almost positive that the Jazz wish to move up in the draft using the 9 and a 2017 pick. I'd guess they want Walker but are smoke screening Black. I also think they would use assets to move up from 16 to get Bufkin or Wallace (the 28 pick or something more.) Bilal is a smoke screen. It throws the scent off of Walker as well.

This also assumes they have no plans to go after Kuzma. If they plan on that, I have no idea where they go, but Black makes a lot of sense. I think the only way we get Hendricks is to trade him to Detroit.
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Bilal is not a smokescreen, trust me. He might not be the guy at 9, but he's definitely higher than 16 on their board.
 
cowhide said:
So why has it been so difficult for the Jazz to find a guy like that?
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Which version of the Jazz? Olynyk was pretty impactful as a stretch shooter and interior defender last year. He just isn't the most switchy on the perimeter. Olynyk can also playmake.
 
Tony Jones with Spence today... said there are 3-4 guys they like at 9... but then named all the consensus 5 guys we've all talked about. Said they like Bilal and Kobe as well as JHS. Can't remember if he mentioned Wallace. Said he knows the few guys they like maybe more but he's sworn to secrecy.

Based on this I think its more likely we stay at 9 and move up from 16 to get one of the second tier guys we like (please be Bufkin or Bilal).

Talked a lot about Walker.. but I think that is him not necessarily just the Jazz.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Bilal is not a smokescreen, trust me. He might not be the guy at 9, but he's definitely higher than 16 on their board.
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There is no universe where they take him at 9. He isn't likely to be there at 16 so all of the noise about him is, by definition, a smoke screen.
 
fishonjazz said:
Taylor Hendricks is literally the best player statistically than any player any of us ever talk about drafting.
15 points per game on great efficiency, 7 rebounds, 1.7 blocks are better stats than any of Wallace, Bilal, walker, black, Bufkin, JHS, cam, etc etc etc.
He averaged more points than all those dudes. And apparently did it while not being able to created or having high usage. And that's a bad thing?

Is that why people are down on him? Is it because he is already good instead of he could potentially be good in the future?

Its just weird. Give me the guy that produces and does so efficiently over the guy that doesn't produce and is inefficient but might turn that around someday and increase the production and efficiency.
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I think Hendricks will probably put up something like 14/7 with ~2 stocks and probably be your 4th guy in terms of shot attempts, unless he unlocks something he hasn't shown. He just isn't someone who is going to create much for himself. He'd fit right in with the LA Clippers, playing the Marcus Morris role next to PG and Kawhi. Maybe I'm missing something, but I think he's a starter-level player, just not a star.

It would be one thing if the Jazz had their cornerstone pieces to complement and build around, but they don't right now. In particular, their current players--Lauri, Walker, Ochai--all lack on-ball creation. So adding another guy who is limited with the ball is a formula for creating a stagnant offense or relying almost entirely on the point guard. And right now, we don't have a high-level solution for PG either.
 
fishonjazz said:
You gotta look at the context of what was occurring at the time of the post. Sometimes we say things in the heat of the moment that we don't really mean. I certainly hope that has been the case with some of the posts from you directed at me for instance.
We all have our bad moments. I like to try to forgive quickly.
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This thread is for basketball discussions not a child having a temper tantrum over a player he dislikes.
 
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