2023 NBA Draft Megathread

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Right it was beneficial in multiple ways... yeah they get the seconds and had maybe an opportunity to leverage it for more... but they also get the guy they wanted at a lower price... 8th slot vs 7th slot in the draft.

Saved his owner $2m over a 4 year deal.

Yeah, my point was that Utah was in a bidding war, so they wanted Bilal, but it must have been pretty close between Bilal/Hendricks because two seconds should be a fairly easy deal to close.

Maybe they wanted to charge Utah more (probably) because it would have been an extra pick distance, but how much more?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I'm pretty confident Bilal is going to be an absolute stud and Utah will really regret not paying up, but hopefully Hendricks works out so it's not a massive regret.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Yeah, my point was that Utah was in a bidding war, so they wanted Bilal, but it must have been pretty close between Bilal/Hendricks because two seconds should be a fairly easy deal to close.

Maybe they wanted to charge Utah more (probably) because it would have been an extra pick distance, but how much more?

Likely 9/16 for 7/26. If it was just 3 or 4 seconds I’m sure we would have done it if we wanted to.

 

[Elizah Huge]

I liked both Walker and Hendricks... not gonna pay a premium to move up and get one or the other... but my preference was Taylor.

Indiana likely doesn’t trade with us if we wanted Jarace though right?

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Likely 9/16 for 7/26. If it was just 3 or 4 seconds I’m sure we would have done it if we wanted to.

There's no way Indy wanted more picks this year. They sold most of their picks they had in the draft. If they were asking for stuff from Utah it would have been future draft capital.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Yeah, my point was that Utah was in a bidding war, so they wanted Bilal, but it must have been pretty close between Bilal/Hendricks because two seconds should be a fairly easy deal to close.

Maybe they wanted to charge Utah more (probably) because it would have been an extra pick distance, but how much more?

I wouldnt call it a war... if the winner only ponied up a couple seconds... that's a slap fight. I am guessing it would have been like 9/16 for 7/26... Woj seemed to indicate we had investigated trading those picks and had an opportunity to do so. It could have been 9/28 to get to 7 but Indy already had to pawn off some picks in that range.

Also, this is why @infection and I harp on stock piling second round picks... that inventory is helpful in winning some minor deals.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

There's no way Indy wanted more picks this year. They sold most of their picks they had in the draft. If they were asking for stuff from Utah it would have been future draft capital.

That isn't more picks though... that is the same number of picks.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Indiana likely doesn’t trade with us if we wanted Jarace though right?

Probably not? which is why it may have cost more... Washington can also play spoiler.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I wouldnt call it a war... if the winner only ponied up a couple seconds... that's a slap fight. I am guessing it would have been like 9/16 for 7/26... Woj seemed to indicate we had investigated trading those picks and had an opportunity to do so. It could have been 9/28 to get to 7 but Indy already had to pawn off some picks in that range.

Also, this is why @infection and I harp on stock piling second round picks... that inventory is helpful in winning some minor deals.

Indy didnt want more picks this year. They were already working to sell off their picks. They werent even trying to package picks to move up. They wanted future capital.

 

[Elizah Huge]

There's no way Indy wanted more picks this year. They sold most of their picks they had in the draft. If they were asking for stuff from Utah it would have been future draft capital.

They don’t gain more picks in that deal they move up from 26 to 16.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

They don’t gain more picks in that deal they move up from 26 to 16.

Yeah, they wouldnt want that over having future capital is the point.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Indy didnt want more picks this year. They were already working to sell off their picks. They werent even trying to package picks to move up. They wanted future capital.

Thats the same amount of picks... just makes the 26 pick have much better value... they didn't want all those picks in the 20s and 30s. They ended up keeping 26... so I'm guessing that is what the deal would have been.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Yeah, they wouldnt want that over having future capital is the point.

I bet they for sure would prefer that to the 2nds they got.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Yeah, they wouldnt want that over having future capital is the point.

Why wouldn’t they want to move up 10 spots when they made a pick at 26 regardless?

 

[NUMBERICA]

In this case I would take Hendricks/George over Jarace/26 or Bilal/26.

Easy.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

I'm pretty confident Bilal is going to be an absolute stud and Utah will really regret not paying up, but hopefully Hendricks works out so it's not a massive regret.

Again, I think the difference between Washington's offer and Utah's offer is that Washington can threaten to take Indiana's guy (Jarace Walker) at #8 ahead of the Pacers if the Pacers trade with Utah. So it forces the Pacers to trade with the Wizards instead. The 2RPs are meaningless really. In the process, Indiana gets to verify who it is that WAS and UTA want to draft, in case they were entertaining other trade scenarios.

 

[Bawse Dawg]

Again, I think the difference between Washington's offer and Utah's offer is that Washington can threaten to take Indiana's guy (Jarace Walker) at #8 ahead of the Pacers if the Pacers trade with Utah. So it forces the Pacers to trade with the Wizards instead. The 2RPs are meaningless really. In the process, Indiana gets to verify who it is that WAS and UTA want to draft, in case they were entertaining other trade scenarios.

Yep. It was an obvious top 8 by the end. And no one wanted to trade out of those picks.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

The Jazz lost Bilal when they won too many regular season games and Cam Whitmore's draft stock went into free-fall.

 

[Elizah Huge]

We didn’t lose anything. We were saved by Washington. Hendricks is going to be WAY better than Bilal.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Again, I think the difference between Washington's offer and Utah's offer is that Washington can threaten to take Indiana's guy (Jarace Walker) at #8 ahead of the Pacers if the Pacers trade with Utah. So it forces the Pacers to trade with the Wizards instead. The 2RPs are meaningless really. In the process, Indiana gets to verify who it is that WAS and UTA want to draft, in case they were entertaining other trade scenarios.

Sure, but if they were entertaining a bidding war they must have been OK with the risk if Utah paid for it.

I'm just interested as to what the asking price was.